Armani Tuxedo for my wedding

[Montrachet]

Chinese tea ceremony?! You should wear this then!

 

[SuitMyself]

Originally Posted by VKK3450

Why are you still talking about this? Dude said he wanted ventless, your statement about ventless being wrong was incorrect, quit blustering on.

K

Another poster claimed that MTM does not enable a client to choose his vent options and I was simply disagreeing with this person.

 

[elapsed]

Just to clarify, I was fitted for my made-to-measure Armani tuxedo by David Newlove of Armani Collezioni. He was in Vancouver from New York for a special event at Harry Rosen. I specifically asked if there was a double-vented option available and he informed me that all Armani tuxedo's are ventless.

cheers,
elapsed

 

[SuitMyself]

Originally Posted by elapsed

Just to clarify, I was fitted for my made-to-measure Armani tuxedo by David Newlove of Armani Collezioni. He was in Vancouver from New York for a special event at Harry Rosen. I specifically asked if there was a double-vented option available and he informed me that all Armani tuxedo's are ventless.

cheers,
elapsed

And they call that made-to-measure? that's the dumbest thing I ever heard. What if someone doesn't want his Armani MTM tuxedo without a vent? That's not made-to-measure!

 

[AlSailor]

Armani is known for ventless coats. It is their signature style. With vents, it would be made-to-measure but perhaps not Armani anymore.

 

[awcollin]

Originally Posted by SuitMyself

And they call that made-to-measure? that's the dumbest thing I ever heard. What if someone doesn't want his Armani MTM tuxedo without a vent? That's not made-to-measure!

Apparently you have quite the hang up regarding this issue. Maybe you should contact Armani directly to explain your displeasure with services that another paid for.

 

[acidboy]

Originally Posted by Bounder

Now that I think about it, doesn't the Chinese wedding tea ceremony require a lot of crawling around on your knees?

no it doesn't

 

[SuitMyself]

Originally Posted by awcollin

Apparently you have quite the hang up regarding this issue. Maybe you should contact Armani directly to explain your displeasure with services that another paid for.

I've already done so.

 

[elapsed]

Dropped by Harry Rosen this afternoon and had them show me bowties from Armani, Tino Cosma, and Dion. The Armani was fairly expensive and hard to tie, so I selected a really nice bowtie from Tino Cosma, one that has a guide measure in the back so I can select a size 16 neck.

Spent a good half hour learning to tie her above my knee, and then another 45 minutes in front of a mirror. Managed to tie a really beautiful knot this evening after all of the hard work, I'll practice a few more times before my wedding.

You guys were absolutely right, the bowtie looks and feels great. When I first tried on a bowtie last week it was with a ready-tied model from Armani and it looked just awful, so I can certainly appreciate the difference with a self-tie. It boggles my mind that Armani would even have a ready-tied model available for purchase, at the same price as the self-tie. (?)

Also tried on a pair of patent leather Ferragamo's and felt it will really pull the tux together. Any advice on picking a pair with a black leather sole vs a pair with a brown/beige leather sole? Of course I will have Topy applied, though I do usually pick out a brown/beige sole as it gives that extra hint of the shoes not being of a cheap rubber variety. Any advice for which soles to pick with a tux?

cheers,
elapsed

 

[intent]

Originally Posted by elapsed

Also tried on a pair of patent leather Ferragamo's and felt it will really pull the tux together. Any advice on picking a pair with a black leather sole vs a pair with a brown/beige leather sole? Of course I will have Topy applied, though I do usually pick out a brown/beige sole as it gives that extra hint of the shoes not being of a cheap rubber variety. Any advice for which soles to pick with a tux?

The colour of the sole doesn't really matter, since it'll get ripped up in a few minutes of wearing it any way. Not sure you should get a Topy though, since you won't be wearing these shoes often enough to warrant the Topy look. Just make sure you wear in the soles a bit before your wedding, so you don't slip on any slick surfaces.

 

[Sanguis Mortuum]

Originally Posted by SuitMyself

And they call that made-to-measure? that's the dumbest thing I ever heard. What if someone doesn't want his Armani MTM tuxedo without a vent? That's not made-to-measure!
It is their right to deny certain options if they feel they are not in keeping with their brand image. For example, Thick As Thieves will not do lapels wider than 3", does this mean that they are not made-to-measure either? Armani simply do not want loads of clothes around with their name on which don't represent the style of the brand, nor do they want their name to be associated with 'incorrect' garments such as vented dinner-jackets. If you really want a vented dinner-jacket you just don't go to Armani, in the same way that if you want an unstructured coat you don't go to Huntsman, and that you wouldn't go to A&S and ask them to make you coat without drape.

 

[SuitMyself]

I want to make sure I understand this correctly, gentlemen: virtually everyone on SF is saying that a tuxedo, by virtue of the garment being a tuxedo, MUST always be ventless?

Forgive me, gentlemen, but that is the biggest crock of sh!t I've ever heard or read. I say that with the utmost respect, of course.

I'm very sorry but I must respectfully disagree. In the 30s, 40s, and 50s, tuxedos and dinner jackets, just like suit jackets and odd jackets, didn't have vents simply because the dominant style at that time didn't favour vents of any kind; in the 60s, tuxedos, dinner jackets, suit jackets and odd jackets featured short vents (either center or side vents); in the 70s, they featured longer vents (center or sides); ditto in the 80s; in the 90s, ventless dominated for most of the decade and I notice that a lot of tuxedos, dinner jackets, suit jackets and odd jackets today feature side vents or center vents once more.

Originally Posted by elapsed

1. All of my suits are double-vented, this is how I am most comfortable. However, Armani only makes ventless tuxedo's to my knowledge. This is fairly timeless and classic,

cheers,
elapsed

Originally Posted by VKK3450

A dinner jacket / tuxedo is “supposed” to be ventless.

The OP is correct.

Originally Posted by jeff13007

Ventless Tuxedo is correct

Originally Posted by larsrindsig

Dinner jackets are meant to be ventless.

Originally Posted by Douglas

First off, to that guy that said ventless is bad, you don't know what you're talking about. Ventless is the classic tuxedo.

 

[apropos]

Originally Posted by SuitMyself

I want to make sure I understand this correctly, gentlemen: virtually everyone on SF is saying that a tuxedo, by virtue of the garment being a tuxedo, MUST always be ventless?
Actually, no one has said must, but instead some people have just pointed out that your pointing out that a ventless tuxedo is ipso facto somehow 'wrong' is well... wrong. And 5 posters are not 'everyone' either.

 

[LaoHu]

Originally Posted by intent

Just make sure you wear in the soles a bit before your wedding, so you don't slip on any slick surfaces.

This is very good advice.

 

[LaoHu]

Originally Posted by apropos

Actually, no one has said must, but instead some people have just pointed out that your pointing out that a ventless tuxedo is ipso facto somehow 'wrong' is well... wrong.

Well put.