vegetarians/vegans

matadorpoeta · Mar 9, 2005

i'm not one myself, but out of curiosity, if someone morally objects to wearing clothing made of animal products, what kind of dress shoes do they buy?

faustian bargain · Mar 9, 2005

this may be an overgeneralization, but 'those types' of people are much less likely than most to be wearing dress shoes at all.

matadorpoeta · Mar 9, 2005

i disagree. there are a lot more vegetarians, in all walks of life, than you might think. and i'm sure all of them, at some point, have thought about this.

faustian bargain · Mar 9, 2005

all i'm saying is, there are vegetarians, and there are vegetarians.

matadorpoeta · Mar 9, 2005

i know what you're saying. i'm saying that even the less hardcore/militant ones would likely prefer not to wear leather if they had the choice.

Brian SD · Mar 9, 2005

A vegan should not be wearing leather but not vegetarians. Many vegetarians I know do not eat meat for either health reasons, don't like the taste, or just don't like the idea of eating animals. Others I know believe that we waste too much potential grain feeding to cows to get them fat enough to eat. Vegetarian does not necessarily equal animal rights advocate, and neither does vegan, but both of them have a pretty big overlap with animal rights-types.

demeis · Mar 9, 2005

I'm a vegetarian and i do wear leather. Its almost impossible to get around it in mens fashion. Thats part of the reason i started to buy higher end goods. Instead of buying a pair of cheap leather shoes that last i year i only need to buy a few good pairs of leather shoes that will last 10-20 at least the way i look at it.

matadorpoeta · Mar 9, 2005

i was a vegetarian for a little while, several years ago, and it was purely for health reasons. i know vegetarians are not necessarily animal rights activists, but, like i said, given the choice, i'll bet most of them would prefer not to wear leather, fur, etc...

matadorpoeta · Mar 9, 2005

demeis, so are you saying you wear leather becaue you have to, not because you want to?

if society considered cotton canvas to be a dressy material for shoes, would you rather wear that?

johnw86 · Mar 9, 2005

I know some vegetarians who say that since the animal has already been killed for the meat, using the left over hide is not the same as killing it for the leather. I had a sister-in-law who claimed to be vegetarian. Then one morning at breakfast, she popped a sausage into her mouth. Thus, I arrived at the following classification system: vegetarian, vegan, sausage-vegetarian.

philosophe · Mar 9, 2005

There are definitely different sub-types among the vegetarians--some avoid meat for aesthetic reasons, others for ethical reasons, etc. The ethical vegetarians I know generally try to minimize their use of products that involve killing animals. There are also folks who wear "vegetarian" shoes. These used to be made of plastic but I believe that there are some more ecologically-friendly materials. Sooner or later, though, IMHO, it seems to turn out that we're using (up) something. It's a matter of judging what's better and what's worse.

demeis · Mar 9, 2005

demeis, so are you saying you wear leather becaue you have to, not because you want to?

if society considered cotton canvas to be a dressy material for shoes, would you rather wear that?

I don't not eat meat for simply ethics. Its always sort of disgusted me in away. As for leather not as much. I don't mind leather as much because it lasts longer and to me it doesn't seem as much as a waste. I know its a weird idea but works for me. There was a time i didn't wear leather but have come to the conclusion is really hard not too. As for wearing cotton canvas if it was considered dressy wouldn't we all have at least one pair?

Bradford · Mar 9, 2005

My sister's date to prom was a vegan who wore canvas sneakers with his tuxedo. Luckily his shoes aren't visible in the photos. I was away at college at the time, but I remember my mom telling me about it on the phone. She was sufficiently horrified.

Bradford

demeis · Mar 9, 2005

OH and one thing vegans are usually the activist type any vegetarian who says they are an animal rights activist is lying because you can't really be if you aren't vegan.

stripes22 · Mar 9, 2005

this may be an overgeneralization, but 'those types' of people are much less likely than most to be wearing dress shoes at all.

I'm a vegetarian and I wear dress shoes... Â I must admit that this is a dilemma for me. Â I 'should' only wear non-leather belts and shoes. Â For years I managed to wear only non-leather belts, but now I wear them. Â I do have leather shoes. Â (I was given a leather jacket as a gift too). Â They are all very nice. Â I would feel odd wearing canvas shoes with a suit.

I often feel guilty about wearing leather. Â I get offensive when people point out that I don't eat meat but I wear leather. Â But, one can argue, that one does what one can. Â

Like someone earlier in the thread said--buying good quality products minimizes the quantity of leather products needed. Â I try to follow that rule as well.

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