quick and original fusing question

Just tried the pinch test. When I pinched above the pocket and pulled the layers apart (from the front and from inside) I felt nothing in between. I assume this means that its completely fused. When I did so, it also seemed like I was slightly "ripping" the layers apart, as if they were adhered with glue or something. Did I just damage my brand new coat?

No, if it is a pocket no real damage done, except if you have it drycleaned frequently, then it will be prone to failure.
Try not to purchase fused garments!

Well it was technically above the pocket, i also tried on the other side to see if it was the same. How do you check for fusing/canvassing without doing this, if it does in fact damage the garment. Other posts say to "gently pull the layers apart."

shameless bump?

The best way to check is to just ask on this forum. Sometimes one can tell without pulling the fabric apart - for example, the lapel is too thin to be properly canvassed, etc.

Pulling it apart will tear the fusing if you hear that noise. I've done it with jackets I was curious about in the store, of course, I didn't buy those.

Perhaps we should add a disclaimer those other posts. I don't see how you can pull the fabric apart then without doing such damage.

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Perhaps we should add a disclaimer those other posts. I don't see how you can pull the fabric apart then without doing such damage.

If they are not fused, you aren't ripping them apart.

If you can, try the pinch test on an Isaia suit (I think that's the brand) since they do full canvasing so you know what it feels like. It's hard to understand w/o a frame of reference

Basically, please do a search, this has been explained hundreds of times....

Anyhow.
The way I do it, is the pinch and rub test, on both the lapels and near the bottom of the garment near the bottom after the last button on the front.
I place the fabric between my middle finger and thumb, and rub. If there is a third layer that has a coarse texture present, you have canvass (assuming you are looking at a fabric different than hopsack). Also, you can look behind the lapels and if you see tons of tiny stitches or puckers in rows you have a padded canvass lapel.
The last, really easy way is to look at the button holes on the front, if you see a tan fabric wedged inbetween, you have canvass.

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Well it was technically above the pocket, i also tried on the other side to see if it was the same. How do you check for fusing/canvassing without doing this, if it does in fact damage the garment. Other posts say to "gently pull the layers apart."


I think i just "master" the art...

1. rub the 2 layber of fabric slightly below your top button, you probably should feel a third layer in between.

2. do the same for the very bottom button, now if you feel the 3rd layer then chances are this is a fully canvassed suit, if not it's either 1/2 canvassed or fused.

3. what you going to do next is pretend you are doing step 2 again, except this time you are slowly move your finger upward the top botton, if during the transition you feel a bump (meaning all of sudden you feel like one portion of the layer is thicker than the other) your suit is 1/2 canvassed...if you feel no transition at all...it's fused. The step is something you might need to repeat couple times to get the hang of such......

I also learned if you want to get an inital idea of how thick the 2 layer it's suppose to be, feel the chest area as a guide.

4. Chances are if you can hear adhensive peeling apart, it's fused..


Hope this helps

So just for clarification...did I do irreparable harm to my jacket? Or will it be fine, even though I heard that "ripping noise" a couple times.

on the pocket?
No.

You probably tore the fusing in the area around the pocket. Opening up the pocket itself wouldn't make that ripping noise.

http://www.made2measure.biz/red/making.html

Scroll down to the pics of the coat bottoms in the middle of the page. Note the difference between a coat that has been "bagged out" and one made on an "open coat" system.