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post #31 of 36
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My problem with tassle loafers is I can't help thinking everytime I see one how much nicer the shoe would look without the tassel. koji
It's as much a historical as an aesthetic question. In the early '60s the college-bound preps, the Brooks shoppers, wore Alden or Bass penny or tassel loafers exclusively while the supposedly less fortunate "classes" wore undecorated (often pointy) black loafers. There is a vestigial snobbery, long forgotten (except apparently by me), to wearing the tassel or penny loafer shoes. That's another reason why,as Flusser writes, these shoes look better with their historical accoutrements (e.g. oxford buttondown shirts, gray flannels, etc.).
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IMHO cordovan does not crease excessively if shoetrees are used.
I LIKE the creasing. Cordovan forms interesting creases over time. The leather tends to lighten a bit at the creases, and I think that creasing adds to the interest of the shoes.
post #34 of 36
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Originally Posted by jcusey,07 Oct. 2004, 9:18
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Originally Posted by Manton,07 Oct. 2004, 10:13
I have a pair of Alden loafers, and a pair of Vass full brogues.  I like them both, but the Vass has a far, far more elegant last.  The Alden full brogues look like blobs to me.
The Tremont last, which Alden currently uses for their shell cordovan bal wingtips, isn't very elegant: The previous last, the Grant, was even less so. If you want shell cordovan full brogues from Alden, you ought to have them made up on the Aberdeen last or the Hampton last.
I picked up this model from Alden within the last year.  Fit perfectly and walked out of the store in the 50's and down to Battery Park.  Feet never felt so good.  I agree that the tremont, and the Barrie (which is this one I've pictured) aren't the most elegant, but I think that shoes don't necessarily have to be elegant (which is a matter of taste, and no doubt yours is quite refined and I think more developed than mine, certainly) -- but I think the sturdy appearance of this shoe is appropriate in certain circumstances.  What those are I am at a lost to say. [sorry unable to post image at moment --- but it's the full wrap-around wing-tip in cordovan - model name: "Wing Tip Bal Oxford" at http://www.aldenshoe.com/cat_ane4_975.htm ]
I've owned a pair of these shoes for twenty years.  Just had them resoled for the umpteenth time.  Still comfortable, still look v. good with suits and slacks.  No, not the "latest" idea of "fashion" but for me, that's the whole point. Horace, do you post on Ask Andy?  If so, I think our paths have crossed before.  At least it seems we share many tastes in Am/Trad clothing and Alden shoes. On another thread I posted a question about comparing the Brooks unlined shell penny with the Alden lined cord shell penny.  I wore the Alden calf version of this shoe for ten years and was fairly well satisfied with it but have always thought the BB version looks pretty sharp.  What say ye all about which is the "cooler" version? Also, now that we are on to Cordovan, lets talk about color.  I just recently picked up a pair of Polo plain toe bluchers in black shell.  .. I've always loved burgundy shell but now the black, wow.  I really think that black shell looks great.  Which leaves me in the "feeling torn" position about which way to go with shell penny loafers.  Black or that wonderful burgundy? What d'ya'll think about that?  As if the Carmel tobacco brown fan shell cord chukka boots weren't already enough of a temptation... Markus
post #35 of 36
D widths. D widths only? Obviously, for those who know, I'm talking about Brooks Brothers where I've just spent a most disappointing time. Nothing fits, not the Peal chukka or the Alden loafer. They must have been sizing shoes differently in the '80s when I bought my wingtips. Does anybody know who might carry Peal shoes in a C width in the US? I guess I'll have to have a closer look at the Alden shells. Last time I tried to get the shell penny's to fit, I couldn't do it. Either Waaaaaaaaaay too tight or waaaay too loose for a shoe that cost that much money. And dagnabbit I just missed out on the Alden trunk show at Mark Shale in September. Markus
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