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reversible valaro bomber from dries this season is so nice, almost pulled the trigger but i wussed out
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How much of being a buyer for a store is analytics? Do smaller stores buy based off data at all or just trends and gut feeling?? Buyers always look like fashion types, not business types
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How much of being a buyer for a store is analytics? Do smaller stores buy based off data at all or just trends and gut feeling?? Buyers always look like fashion types, not business types

The buyers for the big chains like Saks, Bloomingdales, and Neiman Marcus are definitely business-y.  Different lines, different pieces, are bought centrally for the different stores based on proprietary demographic data.  On the other hand, for boutiques, a lot of it is purely intuitive, with some analytics in the mix, but really, nothing that is systematic enough to be really considered robust data analysis.  After all, it's one thing to try to do data analysis over hundreds of doors selling hundreds of thousands of pieces, and quite another to do analysis over hundreds of pieces.  

 

Also, it's worth considering that the buyers who go to the tradeshows are often not actually the people making the bulk of the buying decisions, particularly for the big chains.  I mean, all the production that comes out of the small designers who show at single Capsule show, for instance, would not be enough to fill a single decent sized Nordstrom's. 

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reversible valaro bomber from dries this season is so nice, almost pulled the trigger but i wussed out

I really like that. I'd probably wear it, which probably means it's actually really boring.

@LA Guy, any timetable worked out for the Luxire leather jacket collab launch? I'm pretty sure I'm in for one - especially if you do a collared version of the moto - and I'm trying to plan out my next few purchases
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I really like that. I'd probably wear it, which probably means it's actually really boring.

@LA Guy, any timetable worked out for the Luxire leather jacket collab launch? I'm pretty sure I'm in for one - especially if you do a collared version of the moto - and I'm trying to plan out my next few purchases

 

So, yes, we are pretty much ready. Right now, we have black goat, black calf, and whiskey calf. That last jacket was in black goat, and I would really recommend it as something lightweight but also pretty sturdy (it's not like my 3.5 ounce heavy steer Type III, but that thing weighs about 6.5 lbs).

It's just a matter of starting the thread, agreeing on the grading, etc... You, however, are pretty much my size right now, and I think that you would fit the sample with very few adjustments.

A collared moto can probably be done, and it's something I want to keep in mind for the future, but I really don't feel like I want to offer that without having done a good job of sampling. The proportions, the design, have to be just right for me to offer it to you guys.

We will also have navy and burgundy calf. But if you like black, I say go with the goat (personal preference), and if you like whiskey, the calf is excellent.

 

Incidentally, we will also have an early bird/screwed by ToJ discount.  Obviously, the latter will last longer than the former, but neither will be indefinite.  

Cheers.

Fok.

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Very cool. In that case, feel free to just send me the sample. mwink[1].gif
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Very cool. In that case, feel free to just send me the sample. mwink[1].gif

Can't do.  I'm wearing it!

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Can't do.  I'm wearing it!

In that case, you can just pass it along once you've had them make you a custom version out of 18 oz mastodon hide or whatever.
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Headed to Providence on Sunday to visit my girlfriend's father - any suggestions for good beer/ good food/ good shopping?

food: North (put your name in and go have a drink at the bar across the street)
shopping: Clover
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Headed to Providence on Sunday to visit my girlfriend's father - any suggestions for good beer/ good food/ good shopping?

I was in Providence in 2012 for a weekend. I don't remember the specific spots I went to but I relied on this NYTimes article for some ideas of spots to hit up and I thought it did a pretty decent job

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/15/travel/36-hours-in-providence-ri.html?_r=0
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I was in Providence in 2012 for a weekend. I don't remember the specific spots I went to but I relied on this NYTimes article for some ideas of spots to hit up and I thought it did a pretty decent job

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/15/travel/36-hours-in-providence-ri.html?_r=0

oh cool, the Avery in that article is the the bar across the street from North.
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How is the quality of cashmere knitwear from Hardy Amies or Richard Grand?

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How much of being a buyer for a store is analytics? Do smaller stores buy based off data at all or just trends and gut feeling?? Buyers always look like fashion types, not business types

All buyers want to make money. They buy based on what will sell. If that's what you call "analytics" then, yeah, all buyers work in that way.

But, the way that they interpret and manipulate that data is completely different for all buyers. The time they take in the showroom varies anywhere from 1 hour to 8 hours or more depending on their style. Some like to run through, pick their favorites and write quantities. Some like to take all day, talk to the designer (not even necessarily about the collection or business at all), go out to smoke every 30 minutes, etc... Others will combine the 2 styles; come in one day for a quick run through, go back to their hotel or have dinner or whatever they need to do to think about things then come back the next day and write the order. Some invite clients to walk through with them to help with the buy. Nobody does it in the same way.

Most buyers we work with are owners or co-owners of the shops. There is generally also a "buyer" or "commercial director" who is an employee, but usually the owner or someone very high up on the chain is there as well, people with stake in the success of the company. We've had 3 generations of a family who owns a huge chain of stores come through over the course of a day to see the collection, try things on, make their selections, etc., before they left it to the 'buyer' (the grandson of the original owner) to make the final order.

Some are leaders. Some are followers. Some know exactly what they want. Some want to know what others are buying.

All of the great buyers have specific customers in mind when choosing pieces and sizes for their buys... at least in the market in which I'm currently working. They don't want to be left with a very expensive piece hanging in their store that they liked in the showroom but didn't have a buyer in mind.

These people are generally VERY smart business people, and, as someone who is not wired that way naturally; it is quite amazing working with them and understanding how they think a little bit. They keep vast data files in their heads of what will work for their stores, their clients, and their current marketplace in the context of their competitors and neighbors, etc. Watching a talented, smart buyer make their buy is really exciting, as ridiculous as that sounds.

(P.S. buyers are able to look cool because they get everything at wholesale or lower...)
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can somebody pls recommend me some good cargo jorts?
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I still wear my Abercrombie ones from 2005 or something, no joke, nice heavy cotton-canvas
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