Random fashion thoughts - Part II (A New Hope)

nicelynice · Oct 5, 2015

Just saw an 80 or so year old lady at the convience store in standard old person stretch pants and parka and whatnot rocking a pair of Margiela (they had the stitch) snakeskin GATs.. Wow. Really curious where she picked those up

OccultaVexillum · Oct 5, 2015

sipang said:
What ? This is dumb. I'm sure a Kanye co-sign is something that registers somewhere on the Richter scale but it means absolutely **** all unless Ackermann is secretly about to drop a mixtape. It's just a **** looking collection by an established designer perfectly able to ******* up on his own, he's been going down the SLP drain for a couple collections now so it's not all that surprising either.

Pretty much what I'm saying.
Blaming Kanye for a bad collection isn't fair (I realise it was a joke) considering he has nothing to do with what Ackerman does.
At the same time having Kanye name drop you is certain to bring more attention (and more critics) to your work.
Mixtape coming soon, "Haider's gonna Hate".

Bam!ChairDance · Oct 5, 2015

This thread has been such a downer jadedness parade lately. PPPP had it right a few posts up-- there are a ton of designers now, and tucked away in all their collections are some wonderful new ideas. Even that Vetements ss15 show featured a handful of really cool sihouettes.

Yes, a huge chunk of what's out there is brazenly commercial but dude these peoples have bills to pay. At least they're not licensing their names to stationary companies and wine bottles.

Like Yasiin/Mos said, we are ~~hip-hop~~ fashion. If we're chill, then fashion is chill.

Also, I'm not impressed by how much you don't like. Let's talk about things that make us happy.

Benesyed · Oct 5, 2015

As long as Stephan holds me down in happy

Superb0bo · Oct 5, 2015

can someone summarize what the deal with Schneider is? I dont get it (havent really looked in to it).

Benesyed · Oct 5, 2015

Superb0bo said:
can someone summarize what the deal with Schneider is? I dont get it (havent really looked in to it).

The deal ended long ago. I just keep holding on

Haha but really I'm not sure what you are asking

Superb0bo · Oct 5, 2015

haha, just curious about a summary of Scheiders style/influences, why its good and so on. Sorry for being obscure

conceptual 4est · Oct 5, 2015

nicelynice said:
Was cool meeting up with 4est / Kyle, some guys from Instagram and SuFu who recognized me from my fits on the street, and Frank Leder last night!!

Yes, that was fun. Good meeting you all! I'm back home now and missing it all already

Sayaka posted this one on IG of everyone so I figured I would share it here too

toothsomesound · Oct 5, 2015

OccultaVexillum said:
How much of that is actually Kanye ******* it up as opposed to Ackerman just having more eyes on him ready to pick things apart since Kanye has kind of co-signed him (as backwards as that sounds)?
Wouldn't everything up to around next FW have been designed prior to The Kanye Co-sign anyway, or do the smaller designers not work that far ahead (I always understood that seasons were designed about 3 seasons in advance. Like designers would currently be working on SS17 right now)?

no, only giant brands like supreme or carhartt wip are three seasons ahead. most little designers are working on FW16 right now.

toothsomesound · Oct 5, 2015

Superb0bo said:
can someone summarize what the deal with Schneider is? I dont get it (havent really looked in to it).

based on my impression it's not really for you, he owns his fabric mills and develops his own textiles so he'll do some interesting things with yarn dying and stripes and plaid placement. some some unusual construction details, unfinished canvasing etc. mostly too slim for your tastes, though he'll occasionally do barn coats and chore coats I could see you appreciating. he has a sense of humor. the clothes can be playful but i think people here tend toward the simple dark and textural stuff that blends in with jil, ervell etc.

toothsomesound · Oct 5, 2015

also i like vetements, I'm also the guy that was defending Vfiles a few weeks ago so there you go. I definitely feel like you guys sometimes get a little silly about the whole 'rehashing' thing, it's clothes, everyone copies everything and there isn't that much that can really be done at the end of the day. that doesn't really invalidate the work itself.

on the flip side there also aren't that many voices. I'm very happy to have one like Vetements in the mix. the hype is sort of shocking though but whatever. again this maybe goes back to the kanye convo a few weeks ago, would rather one million times have people freaking out over Vetements versus some safe generic stuff. not a bad influencer to be out in the world. I dunno.

sipang · Oct 5, 2015

OccultaVexillum said:
Pretty much what I'm saying.
Blaming Kanye for a bad collection isn't fair (I realise it was a joke) considering he has nothing to do with what Ackerman does.
At the same time having Kanye name drop you is certain to bring more attention (and more critics) to your work.
Mixtape coming soon, "Haider's gonna Hate".

yeah but I don't think the ppl that suddenly care about HA because of a name drop are the ones doing the criticism (or that the ones doing it are only doing it because of his increased popularity) is all I'm saying. it's perfectly possible being in such proximity with the Sun God fried HA brains out though.

LA Guy · Oct 5, 2015

toothsomesound said:
also i like vetements, I'm also the guy that was defending Vfiles a few weeks ago so there you go. I definitely feel like you guys sometimes get a little silly about the whole 'rehashing' thing, it's clothes, everyone copies everything and there isn't that much that can really be done at the end of the day. that doesn't really invalidate the work itself.

on the flip side there also aren't that many voices. I'm very happy to have one like Vetements in the mix. the hype is sort of shocking though but whatever. again this maybe goes back to the kanye convo a few weeks ago, would rather one million times have people freaking out over Vetements versus some safe generic stuff. not a bad influencer to be out in the world. I dunno.

I was a big fan, though never a personal customer, of stuff like En Noir, when it came out - shortly before the HBA craze. I thought that that "street goth" thing brought something interesting to the conversation - mixing up sneaker culture with "artisanal" culture with luxury brands into something new and, imo, rather refreshing at the time. Vetements though, I just don't see it adding to the conversation very much. I don't see much real energy there. Clearly, I'm in the minority, but at the same time, I have always disliked HBA, and that was huge for a moment, so I'm not displeased to be in the minority position in the fashion world.

LA Guy · Oct 5, 2015

Bam!ChairDance said:
Also, I'm not impressed by how much you don't like. Let's talk about things that make us happy.

Visvim. Brands that are somewhat associated with football casuals. Leather, in all its cool forms, from Horween to C.F. Stead to Guidi. Sashiko. Things dyed indigo. Leather dyed indigo. Sample making.

sipang · Oct 5, 2015

I just like to hate.

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