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b1os, I just stole your screen capture (if it's even yours to begin with) to use as my FB profile pic
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Never mind the "experts" that come out of the woodwork every four years - who never watch the game on a regular basis.

I won't regale y'all with stories of absurd things I've heard from casual soccer fans, but this indeed gets frustrating. The worst part is that these "experts" are typically bandwagon fans of their respective countries who do not understand soccer and seem to think the refs should give them every call.
post #378 of 1527
I said four years ago that the Spanish team wasn't all it was cracked up to be. I still maintain they won 2010 by being the best at falling.
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And the Aussie team wasn't very strong. Put the Italian ref from the Brazil-Mexico game in there and it would've been another Spanish shooting gallery.

Getting a goal from an unavoidable handball on an indirect kick doesn't count as competency. Nobody would be saying Australia put up a good fight if they had lost 3-1 unless they're being generous with their pity.
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Dear lord, my facebook feed is horrendous with these people. Everyone has an "opinion" and feels entirely justified in expressing it. Please stop the madness. I'm almost to the point of wishing the tourney was already over so the sport could fade back into the background and I can go happily on my way.
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I won't regale y'all with stories of absurd things I've heard from casual soccer fans, but this indeed gets frustrating. The worst part is that these "experts" are typically bandwagon fans of their respective countries who do not understand soccer and seem to think the refs should give them every call.

Called it back in March. Oh, well. They will go back to not caring after July 13


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EDIT: Also, Red Hot Chile Pressure is fantabulous.
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b1os, I just stole your screen capture (if it's even yours to begin with) to use as my FB profile pic
Nope. It's from an Irish TV coverage, I think.
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Getting a goal from an unavoidable handball on an indirect kick doesn't count as competency. Nobody would be saying Australia put up a good fight if they had lost 3-1 unless they're being generous with their pity.

 

Can't say I agree. The score doesn't always tell the whole story ... it shouldn't matter if the final result was 3-1 or 5-1 if you're talking about the team's performance. Australia were mixing it with the Netherlands for large periods of that game.

 

Tommy Oar fluffed a 2 v 1 opportunity to score (when he pinged a cross at an awkward height to Leckie when he should've shot ... or passed it better). That would've been 3-2 to Aus.

 

The Netherland's third goal was a howler by Ryan.

 

We deserved at least a point from that game.

 

I never expected us to do well against the Netherlands, and I am generally critical of Australia's inability to develop technically adept youngsters, but they went out there and played well; really surprised me.

 

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Dear lord, my facebook feed is horrendous with these people. Everyone has an "opinion" and feels entirely justified in expressing it. Please stop the madness. I'm almost to the point of wishing the tourney was already over so the sport could fade back into the background and I can go happily on my way.
 

 

Aww c'mon guys, it's good for the sport -- some of those bandwagon jumpers will become permanent fans.

 

I also find that non-bandwagon fans are just as likely to hold diametrically opposed opinions. I had disagreements with people who thought Brazil would smash Mexico (I put money on Mexico at $9 odds, which I thought was obscene -- didn't rate Brazil at all after the Croatia game) and people who thought Spain would smash Chile. They were all seasoned football fans who watch it religiously and play it on the weekend.

 

Now I'm sure there'll be people here, who are not bandwagon fans, who might think Brazil would've smashed Mexico but for exceptional keeping. I would disagree and say Brazil did not outplay Mexico. I guess we can all see it differently.

post #383 of 1527
i feel the same , let people witness the beautiful game and surely there'll be more new fans :-)
maybe it's also because i haven't had a FB account in forever hah

FIFA announces Top 10 performers of first round , and of course Mueller is first but second is a surprise -- Iran's winger, Mehrdad Pooladi.
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Nigeria. A measure of Iran’s defensive effort against Nigeria is that have posted more completed clearances than any other team aside from Mexico – and Pooladi’s performance included six tackles, a header off the line from Shola Ameobi and, when the opportunity allowed, some steady work in the final third of the pitch where he completed five of six attempted passes.

The full list of the top ten is as follows:
Thomas Muller, Germany (9.75); Mehrdad Pooladi, Iran (9.7); Geoff Cameron, USA (9.64); David Luiz, Brazil (9.6); Phil Jagielka, England (9.56); Robin van Persie, Netherlands (9.52); Arjen Robben, Netherlands (9.48); John Boye, Ghana (9.45); Alexis Sanchez, Chile (9.42); Tim Cahill, Australia (9.39).

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/news/y=2014/m=6/news=muller-sets-early-pace-pooladi-on-his-shoulder-2375655.html
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Can't say I agree. The score doesn't always tell the whole story ... it shouldn't matter if the final result was 3-1 or 5-1 if you're talking about the team's performance. Australia were mixing it with the Netherlands for large periods of that game.

Tommy Oar fluffed a 2 v 1 opportunity to score (when he pinged a cross at an awkward height to Leckie when he should've shot ... or passed it better). That would've been 3-2 to Aus.

The Netherland's third goal was a howler by Ryan.

We deserved at least a point from that game.

I never expected us to do well against the Netherlands, and I am generally critical of Australia's inability to develop technically adept youngsters, but they went out there and played well; really surprised me.


Aww c'mon guys, it's good for the sport -- some of those bandwagon jumpers will become permanent fans.

I also find that non-bandwagon fans are just as likely to hold diametrically opposed opinions. I had disagreements with people who thought Brazil would smash Mexico (I put money on Mexico at $9 odds, which I thought was obscene -- didn't rate Brazil at all after the Croatia game) and people who thought Spain would smash Chile. They were all seasoned football fans who watch it religiously and play it on the weekend.

Now I'm sure there'll be people here, who are not bandwagon fans, who might think Brazil would've smashed Mexico but for exceptional keeping. I would disagree and say Brazil did not outplay Mexico. I guess we can all see it differently.

Agreed on people thinking it's all about the score. Narratives are created to fit the scoreline in the end. There's no reason a journalist should have to rewrite their entire match summary because of a late goal, but it happens all the time. Rather than providing a detailed analysis of what happened throughout the match and why it happened, a new narrative must be invented to reflect the result.

I also seem to be in the minority in welcoming non-fans every two years during World Cups and European Championships. It's nice to be able to drop football monologues on people without getting weird looks.

And I can (barely) suspend my disbelief for long enough to think that international tournaments are all about the glory of representing your country. Try as I might, this is no longer possible in club football.
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I'm happy to see more people grow to appreciate soccer in the USA, but the comments on FB and elsewhere really do get to be absurd. I could be wrong, but I think it's possible to tell the difference often between people who might actually turn into real soccer fans and people who just show up on the bandwagon every 4 years, cheer for some random team and never learn anything (or next to nothing) much about soccer during the WC. It's much more the latter that annoy me.
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I said four years ago that the Spanish team wasn't all it was cracked up to be. I still maintain they won 2010 by being the best at falling.

I definitely enjoyed seeing Spain go down, but in fairness they are a team that won 3 consecutive major international tournaments (Euro 2008, WC 2010, Euro 2012). You have to have a damn good team to pull that off.
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I definitely enjoyed seeing Spain go down, but in fairness they are a team that won 3 consecutive major international tournaments (Euro 2008, WC 2010, Euro 2012). You have to have a damn good team to pull that off.

Oh, I know. They had (and still have) a good team. But really, the 2010 final was silly. Considering all the nonsense that went on that game, if Spain had lost we would've been hearing something different (or at least less bombastic) for the past six years.
post #387 of 1527
I've been playing and watching football since, I guess, 1978 (yeah, yeah, our second lost final). I just don't really care talking about it and hadn't searched for a football thread before this tournament. And football died a little when Bergkamp stopped playing. And Cruijff before him. smile.gif

The EC and WC are fun though, because this is an international forum with fans from many participating countries.
post #388 of 1527
Loads of missed chances in this IC vs Columbia match...
post #389 of 1527
Okay this whole working thing during the group stage of the World Cup simply does not work for me...leave the FIFA app for 10 minutes and all hell breaks loose in this game.
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Yup, it's really heated up.
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