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Well, hardly anyone becomes rich by being honest.  Or maybe that's just my left-leaning tendencies rearing there ugly heads.
Wow, a VERY ugly head. That's a pretty cynical and defeatist view of the world, LAG. Millions of honest people in the world have become rich through hard work and savvy entrepreneurship. Honesty wins in the end because karma always catches up to the dishonest folks out there. It may take some time to catch up, but ultimately, it does. And if it doesn't in this world, it will in the next. I go through life trusting that dishonest people will ultimately screw themselves. In fact, I think total and complete honesty is the KEY to getting rich the right and ethical way. But that's a soapbox for another time... Logan.
post #47 of 78
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In the long run I think that the honest seller of high quality goods will win out, because that seller is not easiliy replaceable: Honest selling takes guts, because it does not lead to short term swindles. Very few have such guts.
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(LA Guy @ 23 July 2004, 4:18) Well, hardly anyone becomes rich by being honest.  Or maybe that's just my left-leaning tendencies rearing there ugly heads.
Wow, a VERY ugly head. That's a pretty cynical and defeatist view of the world, LAG. Millions of honest people in the world have become rich through hard work and savvy entrepreneurship. Honesty wins in the end because karma always catches up to the dishonest folks out there. It may take some time to catch up, but ultimately, it does. And if it doesn't in this world, it will in the next. I go through life trusting that dishonest people will ultimately screw themselves. In fact, I think total and complete honesty is the KEY to getting rich the right and ethical way. But that's a soapbox for another time... Logan.
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post #49 of 78
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I don't know -- I'm a bit suspicious about A. Harris now. I mean, why spend $600 on a St. Andrews when I can get a "like new" Zegna Soft in a god awful pattern for $400?
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By the way, here is the end of Brandmaniac's auction: $340. He's gotta be making some nice profits on these.
post #51 of 78
Johnny - for low end Zegna fabrics in some of the cheaper cut and glue factories he's getting them for around $100.
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Check out this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws....55&rd=1 At $3495 - it must practically be a Kiton...
post #53 of 78
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Check out this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws....55&rd=1 At $3495 - it must practically be a Kiton...
From the auction: 'The pants are available in 8" drops which means the pants are 8 sizes smaller than the jacket size' - huh? And the picture of the french "Professionally Dry Clean" label ("Lavage à sec Professionnel") is very impressive; when I saw that, I almost couldn't resist...
post #54 of 78
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From the auction: 'The pants are available in 8" drops which means the pants are 8 sizes smaller than the jacket size' - huh?
JFK: Drops are the difference between the jacket and the pant so if its a 40 jacket with a drop 6 the pant will be a size 34 (6 numbers below the Jacket.) A drop 8 is an "athletic build", someone with wider shoulders and narrower wastew who needs the larger difference between the two. 40 jacket will be a 32 pant. Most suits are drop 6's. Also important to know is that if you pick up a Blazer that is listed as a drop whatever there are pants to it somewhere or another. JJF
post #55 of 78
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Also important to know is that if you pick up a Blazer that is listed as a drop whatever there are pants to it somewhere or another
I used to think that was true, but honestly it isn't. Go into Wilkes Bashford for instance, and see all the sportcoats, not suits, with drops listed...
post #56 of 78
I too must disagree with FIHTies. I have 2 Zegna sport coats that have drop information listed. I've found this to be true of most of the higher end of the spectrum. I figure it's there to let you know how a jacket is constucted - Bigger, Regular, or Slimmer.
post #57 of 78
Here is another funny one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws....me=WDVW Those Corneliani's are getting expensive
post #58 of 78
I find the Corneliani example more humorous than anger-inducing, if only because of the absurdity of the thought that someone who knew enough about menswear to recognize a Corneliani would BIN for $999.... for an eBay suit that he doesn't even get the chance to examine. I wonder why the seller isn't being as ridiculous with the price on the "Giorgio Armani" sportcoat he's selling. Of course, he won't even show the suit labels, so for all I know it's probably just a Mani... or worse.
post #59 of 78
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Drops are the difference between the jacket and the pant so if its a 40 jacket with a drop 6 the pant will be a size 34 (6 numbers below the Jacket.) A drop 8 is an "athletic build", someone with wider shoulders and narrower wastew who needs the larger difference between the two. 40 jacket will be a 32 pant. Most suits are drop 6's.
Thanks, JJF, I appreciate the explanation; I'd heard the term, but thought it referred to something else (and, based on the rest of the auction, wondered if this might be more of this guy's BS).
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Also important to know is that if you pick up a Blazer that is listed as a drop whatever there are pants to it somewhere or another
I used to think that was true, but honestly it isn't. Go into Wilkes Bashford for instance, and see all the sportcoats, not suits, with drops listed...
Andrew, you didnt have to quote me so this way I could have deleted my comment and made believe that I never said it . But you are obviousely correct and as TomW stated the cut would make the difference in both pants and Jackets. I would say though that originally this stems from the difference between the jacket and pant in a set. For example, a drop 4 which would be a huskier cut is not just a pant of a size 36 which otherwise would be matched to a 40 jacket but in reality a pant that is proportionately cut to someone that would take a 40 jacket and a 36 pant, which would be wider waste and with a shorter crotch. This would mean that in fact there is a pant that by itself is a drop 4 cut and similarly a drop 4 jacket (wider jacket and shorter length) etc... This is my understanding, correct me if this is wrong please. JJF
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