Nicks Boots

b-ewing · Oct 28, 2014

gfloridafan93 said:
I just think these veiny creases are a bit ridiculous for $450 boots. Compare them to these:

Those are lined, the Nick's are unlined; if you get lined you will reduce or all but eliminate those creases. I have unlined wescos in black domain that are unlined and they have those creases, but to me it's part of the evo.

So go lined

jrosenthal · Oct 28, 2014

b-ewing said:
Those are lined, the Nick's are unlined; if you get lined you will reduce or all but eliminate those creases. I have unlined wescos in black domain that are unlined and they have those creases, but to me it's part of the evo.

So go lined

Very intersting. I assume leather choice also could affect the creasing as would maintenance products. Those indies as stunning, wish they fit my feet :-(

James

gfloridafan93 · Oct 28, 2014

b-ewing said:
Those are lined, the Nick's are unlined; if you get lined you will reduce or all but eliminate those creases. I have unlined wescos in black domain that are unlined and they have those creases, but to me it's part of the evo.

So go lined

Really? I did not know the lining is the cure for that? Thank you for letting me know!

b-ewing · Oct 28, 2014

Trust me man, it's the lining!

jrosenthal · Oct 28, 2014

b-ewing said:
Trust me man, it's the lining!

Makes perfect sense, gives the leather more structure, but it will also make it stiffer and heavier too, so that's important to keep in mind, and from what I understand Nick's uses some of the thickest around. Apparently the CXL they use is almost twice as thick as that used by Wolverine and Alden.

James

b-ewing · Oct 28, 2014

Agreed. My lined CXL Indys are child's play compared to my lined CXL Smokejumpers. No even close

gfloridafan93 · Oct 28, 2014

So what would be the reason to get them unlined then other than if you like all the creasing? Just curious. I'm so glad I just learned this.

meso · Oct 28, 2014

gfloridafan93 said:
I just think these veiny creases are a bit ridiculous for $450 boots. Compare them to these:

That pic of Indys looks like they have shoe trees in them and have been freshly brushed.
So it won't look like the ankle of a pair of Nick's.
IMHO lining doesn't have much to do with creasing.

ahonobaka · Oct 28, 2014

Unlined Nicks are already pretty hefty...If you do go lined beware they may be pretty heavy!

That said, creasing will occur on any boot; I get it on my White's, Wesco's, lined CXL Whites etc and it will come with wear. I even have them on my Indys, but since the Nicks are a thicker leather, they are indeed thicker/vein-ier...

misterjuiceman · Oct 28, 2014

ahonobaka said:
I think a contributing factor may also be the leather that's used...It's been mentioned before in this thread that their stock leathers have a more "plastic-y" quality to them so it doesn't surprise me that it'd react that way initially. I'm curious to see how other leathers react but we can't really know until people start buying more and posting pictures

That said, there's no doubting the durability and construction of these boots. This is purely cosmetic and we have to remember that Nicks caters to actual work boots despite them starting to branch into more lifestyle/fashion products as of late. It'd be worth bringing this up to them as the new management is open to feedback and it'd be interesting to see how they address this (as an issue or non-issue).

Nick's always seemed to trump White's in fit and finish, but White's has them beat in terms of clicking. Seen a lot of awful creasing from Nick's. Pick your poison, I guess.

gfloridafan93 · Oct 28, 2014

The problem is youre out of luck if you get a bad piece of leather since they are hand made and you can't return them. I'm just not sure if I want to take the risk.

misterjuiceman · Oct 28, 2014

gfloridafan93 said:
The problem is youre out of luck if you get a bad piece of leather since they are hand made and you can't return them. I'm just not sure if I want to take the risk.

Why can't you return them if there's an issue?

gfloridafan93 · Oct 28, 2014

I didn't think you could return handmade boots for something like "bad creasing"

jrosenthal · Oct 28, 2014

gfloridafan93 said:
I didn't think you could return handmade boots for something like "bad creasing"

I understand the nature of hand made and appreciate the virtues of the individualism of using a natural material like leather, but we are consumers, paying a premium for a quality product. They (any if the aforementioned makers) are not doing us a "favor" by providing us with their boots, we paid for them. So regardless of how they will be used (office, jobsite, outdoors), there is no excuse for sloppy stitch work, or stretched and torqued leather at the welt, that's what gets sold off as factory seconds, not prime full price merchandise. Call me old fashioned but I believe when you go to the trouble of paying for a quality product, you should get exactly what you pay for an nothing less. If I want sub-par, I'll go back to buying my shoes DSW.

James

NAMOR · Oct 28, 2014

jrosenthal said:
I understand the nature of hand made and appreciate the virtues of the individualism of using a natural material like leather, but we are consumers, paying a premium for a quality product. They (any if the aforementioned makers) are not doing us a "favor" by providing us with their boots, we paid for them. So regardless of how they will be used (office, jobsite, outdoors), there is no excuse for sloppy stitch work, or stretched and torqued leather at the welt, that's what gets sold off as factory seconds, not prime full price merchandise. Call me old fashioned but I believe when you go to the trouble of paying for a quality product, you should get exactly what you pay for an nothing less. If I want sub-par, I'll go back to buying my shoes DSW.

James

could you recommend a brand at a similar or lower price point, without any of the problems you mentioned? because i can list a sleuth of others who provide similar quality at a higher price point

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