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post #36976 of 48312
Probably in the minority but I don't mind the 9 o'clock baton, I feel it balances the white date wheel on t he 3 o'clock side. I think it'll look unbalanced if there is a IX index there.

I did this PS for the SD4k date wheel for another forum on how the it would look if the colors are inverse and while I am usually against date wheels that contrast with the color of the dial, I feel in this case it does balance out it out. It looks left sided heavy with the date wheel blended in.
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I kind of see the same thing going on with the DJII but in reverse, it's going to look heavy on the right side with the cyclops and date on the 3 o'clock.
post #36977 of 48312
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Hold on, I'll superimpose them shits...
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It might not appear to be much of a change at first glance (largely because it's a familiar object and your mind tends to process it in the context of knowing it's the same thing), but the difference can be clearly seen when the images are overlaid. And this is only going from a 20 mm to a 35 mm lens, so it's nowhere near as dramatic as it's possible to get with extremes such as 14 vs. 600 mm. However, I think it's a decent representation of the difference in how a watch appears in a typical camera phone shot compared to what you see in person. It's not enough to be super-obvious, but it's definitely enough to mess with your perception of how a watch fits.

I get what you're saying but I just think it is a bad example if you have super-impose the example. :lol I am not disagreeing, just very difficult to see in your example.

Actually it is easy to see, as Belligero says your mind is playing tricks as you think you know what a Porsche 911 looks like so you assume both pictures look the same.
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I get what you're saying but I just think it is a bad example if you have super-impose the example. :lol I am not disagreeing, just very difficult to see in your example.

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Yes, that was what I was trying to demonstrate when he asked if his eyes were playing tricks; things seem similar enough in both photos at a casual glance, but the size relationship between foreground and background objects has changed significantly in the image. This is due to a phenomenon within sensory processing known as perceptual constancy.

In this case, a visual-interpretation mechanism called size constancy causes perceptual adjustments when viewing familiar objects — they're registered as being more-or-less the same regardless of changes in shape and perspective — which means that your senses quite literally are deceiving you. That it's difficult to notice unless they're directly overlaid is kinda the point here.

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Post-taking-the-dog-for-a-walk-halfway-through-typing edit: Yeah, what Culverwood said (more succintly). smile.gif
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OK @Mr. Moo, I get you.  For sure, slate grey works better than black, though I just don't like romans on a sporty watch.  For me, as you're looking for  watch that can be both casual and smart, this somehow falls a touch short on both counts: it's too big, loud and shiny to be dressy, and too fussy to be casual.  Of course that's a very subjective view, so whatever.  

 

Honestly, I think it's important to go with what your heart loves and not be TWATted into submission.  And with stick markers, maybe in blue or silver but grey too, I'd find that quite attractive: you want a bigger watch, that's no sin.  Each to his own.  But as you've thrown it out for discussion, I'll go again: you don't like the Cartiers on bracelets - pity, I think the Anglaise is the bomb among bigger steel bracelets.  I'm guessing you won't like the Ballon Bleu either.  So, instead, here are a dozen things that are slightly cheaper than a DJII, on a bracelet and 40-42mm-ish.  And I think, slightly cooler:

 

- IWC Ingenieur Automatic (40mm); as mentioned before, classic, sporty, but more subtle I think

 

- IWC Portofino Automatic (40mm); smart, simple, retro, especially with the Milanese bracelet

 

- IWC Pilot Mark XVII (42mm); more casual with those big numbers, but smooth and simple 

 

- IWC Pilot Chronograph (42mm); busier than the Pilot, same price, if you fancy some more action

 

- Zenith El Primero Espada (40mm); maybe not a fancy enough name, but some good deals around, nice and clean

 

- Zenith El Primero Retrotimer (42mm); love the unusual subdial placement, big and you won't see many others, but still understated

 

- Zenith Captain Elite Dual Time (40mm); because dual time

 

- Omega Aqua Terra (41.5mm); pick your colour, good deals to be found, classic and classy even with the bigger case

 

- Omega Speedmaster Mark II (42mm); very clean lines for a chrono with the retro 70s case shape, lots of presence

 

- Chopard Mille Miglia (42mm); fancy chrono, maybe a bit of a jumble, but love it or hate it there's plenty of history

 

- Corum Admiral's Cup Legend (42mm); distinctive, definitely hits the dressy/sport mark, discounts all over, and the pale blue dial version is something

 

- Carl F Bucherer Manero Central Chrono (42.5mm); a bit left-field maybe, big but really nice proportions imho

 

 

Anyway, just didn't want you thinking I was narrow-minded!  I did exclude a nice Tudor, purely on the basis that nobody who started out wanting a Rolex should buy a Tudor for almost the same money.  But apart from that...free your mind!

 

So good luck with the DJII that you will inevitably buy anyway. :)

post #36980 of 48312
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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post

I get what you're saying but I just think it is a bad example if you have super-impose the example. :lol I am not disagreeing, just very difficult to see in your example.

No critique, just saying if you can't see that there is a huge difference in perspective and appearence, due to difference in focal length and distance to object, between those two shots, then there might be something off with your spatial perception.
By off meaning weak, which is a trait, not sure how common or not.
post #36981 of 48312
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

OK @Mr. Moo
, I get you. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
 For sure, slate grey works better than black, though I just don't like romans on a sporty watch.  For me, as you're looking for  watch that can be both casual and smart, this somehow falls a touch short on both counts: it's too big, loud and shiny to be dressy, and too fussy to be casual.  Of course that's a very subjective view, so whatever.  

Honestly, I think it's important to go with what your heart loves and not be TWATted into submission.  And with stick markers, maybe in blue or silver but grey too, I'd find that quite attractive: you want a bigger watch, that's no sin.  Each to his own.  But as you've thrown it out for discussion, I'll go again: you don't like the Cartiers on bracelets - pity, I think the Anglaise is the bomb among bigger steel bracelets.  I'm guessing you won't like the Ballon Bleu either.  So, instead, here are a dozen things that are slightly cheaper than a DJII, on a bracelet and 40-42mm-ish.  And I think, slightly cooler:

- IWC Ingenieur Automatic (40mm); as mentioned before, classic, sporty, but more subtle I think

- IWC Portofino Automatic (40mm); smart, simple, retro, especially with the Milanese bracelet

- IWC Pilot Mark XVII (42mm); more casual with those big numbers, but smooth and simple 

- IWC Pilot Chronograph (42mm); busier than the Pilot, same price, if you fancy some more action

- Zenith El Primero Espada (40mm); maybe not a fancy enough name, but some good deals around, nice and clean

- Zenith El Primero Retrotimer (42mm); love the unusual subdial placement, big and you won't see many others, but still understated

- Zenith Captain Elite Dual Time (40mm); because dual time

- Omega Aqua Terra (41.5mm); pick your colour, good deals to be found, classic and classy even with the bigger case

- Omega Speedmaster Mark II (42mm); very clean lines for a chrono with the retro 70s case shape, lots of presence

- Chopard Mille Miglia (42mm); fancy chrono, maybe a bit of a jumble, but love it or hate it there's plenty of history

- Corum Admiral's Cup Legend (42mm); distinctive, definitely hits the dressy/sport mark, discounts all over, and the pale blue dial version is something

- Carl F Bucherer Manero Central Chrono (42.5mm); a bit left-field maybe, big but really nice proportions imho


Anyway, just didn't want you thinking I was narrow-minded!  I did exclude a nice Tudor, purely on the basis that nobody who started out wanting a Rolex should buy a Tudor for almost the same money.  But apart from that...free your mind!
So good luck with the DJII that you will inevitably buy anyway. smile.gif

Good points all around, though personally wouldn't pay Rolex money for an ETA IWC.



(Though to be fair, there are very few watches from any manufacturer that I'd be willing to buy at dealer price.)

If they still made the 3227, it could be a viable alternative as a bigger bracelet watch for someone who doesn't mind lugging around over 200 grams of steel.
post #36982 of 48312
Sometimes the 200g is exactly where the pleasure lies! (Though I still want the 36mm OP)
post #36983 of 48312
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Originally Posted by DeSense View Post

No critique, just saying if you can't see that there is a huge difference in perspective and appearence, due to difference in focal length and distance to object, between those two shots, then there might be something off with your spatial perception.
By off meaning weak, which is a trait, not sure how common or not.

Nah, that seems perfectly normal to me — I thought it was a perfect demonstration of subjective constancy. You're bypassing your natural cognition to a certain extent when switching to analytical mode with images, and this a useful thing to be aware of if you're into photography.

One's brain has plenty of other tricks up its figurative sleeve, too; it naturally synchronizes sights and sounds that arrive at different times, for example. teacha.gif
post #36984 of 48312
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Sometimes the 200g is exactly where the pleasure lies! (Though I still want the 36mm OP)

Now no longer available new in the blue dial version frown.gif
post #36985 of 48312
Unusual suspects. Tired of all car-salesman Rolexes? I am.
post #36986 of 48312
I never tire of quality watches, including Rolex.
post #36987 of 48312
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Unusual suspects. Tired of all car-salesman Rolexes? I am. Panerain't (Click to show)
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post #36988 of 48312
Damned autumnal today - corduroy, layers, EXPII.



Out of interest, what do people think of the JLC Duometre Quantiemme Lunaire (ahem)? I find myself lusting after it in the same bracket as a Lange 1 Moonphase (the smaller size) with either being a 'maybe next year' semi-grail for me.
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We will see. I've officially gone off the deep end on this one . . . I know it will be polarizing. Lol

This new watch can not get here soon enough, TC. So intrigued!!!

post #36990 of 48312
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Now no longer available new in the blue dial version frown.gif

Wtf Rolex? It was your best current model confused.gif
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