okay, how about these? http://shop.nordstrom.com/S/gucci-noort-plain-toe-oxford/3498429?origin=category&BaseUrl=Oxfords
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You will, of course, see plenty of guys wearing a belt with a waistcoat. You'll also see plenty of them buttoning the bottom button, which there's also a rule against, even if it's more for the sake of tradition than aesthetics.
The DoW made belts more popular, wearing them often, for instance in this famous picture:
But whenever he needed to wear a more formal suit, he would usually wear a double-breasted. My quick search couldn't even find any of him wearing a 3-pc single-breasted suit. But if you did, I'd be very surprised if he were wearing a belt. With any kind of formal wear, which includes an open coat and a waistcoat, he would never wear a belt.
Now every time I think of a waistcoat worn with a belt I am reminded of this horrid image:
If your waistcoat fits right you wouldn't be able to see a belt anyways. So all a belt can potentially contribute to the situation is a bulge, especially at the buckle, which will look bad. Hence suspenders, which in addition to not being seen won't produce any bulges under the vest. I find they do a better job keeping my pants in the right place anyways.
Thanks again everyone!
I'm sure this detail can go either way... My goal is to get a very trim belt, which shouldn't be seen anyways. However, I will also have them sew in buttons for suspenders, I don't recall if the pants had them or not but I will ask them to do it. This way I can try both and just go with whatever truly works best.
Thanks again everyone!
So what's the point of the belt if, as you say, shouldn't be seen anyways? The physics guarantees suspenders do a better job than a belt keeping your pants up, which seems to be the only remaining argument for wearing a belt. Heck, if my pants fit well enough I might not wear either.
My wedding was also very casual - we didn't require that anyone wore a suit or something fancy if they didn't have it or weren't comfortable in it. I don't think anyone's level of formality or informality made anyone else around them uncomfortable in any way.