Do you consider this a perfectly fitting shirt?

Hello everybody,

Please take a look at this shirt. I need an impartial opinion. What do you think of the cut? Is this as good as it can be? (That's what I've been told where I got it from...)

It's probably just fine I guess, but I'd like a 'connoisseur' to have a look at it before I spend a considerable amount of money on the next one...

Thank you in advance, I appreciate any sort
of input on this.

No. I've never seen a shirt with a silhouette like that. Still, there's some fabric that I'd remove.

The collar looks enormous, but may be difficult to judge when not buttoned up.

its horrible, start over, go to a different tailor. Anybody who said that is their best work should be put to the sword. Just look at the pocket, so far over on the side and way too big. It is clearly an OTR that has been cut down, horribly.

Don't order MTM shirts with a pocket, IMHO.

From the top...

Collar is a little... huge. I know different strokes but for a skinny guy, it looks silly.

Shoulders are too wide.

Chest is good

Too baggy at the waist

Sleeves are too baggy

Unless its unbuttoned, sleeves are too long

Length looks okay

2/6 ain't bad.



Apollotrader said:

its horrible, start over, go to a different tailor. Anybody who said that is their best work should be put to the sword. Just look at the pocket, so far over on the side and way too big.  It is clearly an OTR that has been cut down, horribly.

Don't order MTM shirts with a pocket, IMHO.

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Would you consider yourself to be exceptionally thin? That's the impression I'm getting, and may be the source of the "collar and pocket look unusual" comments (which I agree with)

Who made that? I've never actually seen a collar large enough to house a small family before. With room for guests in the pocket. The fit looks a bit strange, I would go somewhere else for the next one.



Cantabrigian said:

Collar is huge
Shoulders are slightly wide.
Chest is good
Sleeves are too baggy
sleeves are too long
Length looks okay

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Apollotrader said:

Don't order MTM shirts with a pocket, IMHO.

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Welcome to Styleforum sfimlit.
Hopefully you are going to wear a V-neck undershirt with this shirt. Otherwise there is a lot of pink 'you' bleeding through the shirt. The fit isn't perfect but it is good enough. For this type of collar, it is a sin to leave the collar unbuttoned. Perhaps retake the photo with a tie and jacket. It will probably be fine. And tuck in the shirt please. If you insist upon wearing this shirt without tie, at least have a jacket on and only the top button open, but still, it needs a tie.

Was this shirt made as a dress shirt or to be worn as some type of styled, more casual stand alone?
The latter might explain a few bits such as why the pocket is that size and location. But if not, I will repeat various points already mentioned by others.
The pocket, amazing in the absurdity if this is a proper dress shirt.
The waist is too big. Seems you are slim and some tapering is fine and all but it really bells out and I do not believe you are that hippy.
Although I find this to be one of the most common issues I have with some of the well complimented pics of various posters on SF(in suits and jackets, not shirts)but I attribute it to poor body shape.
Of course, I am always expecting much of that to be taken away when it is a high end MTM or bespoke garment and when it is not, I want to ask a question, but I don't want to be flamed too much yet around these parts.

I will leave the collar alone unless you button it but it does not appear promising.
If this is meant as a crisp white shirt to be worn with a proper suit then I think I would go with Apollotrader who said to scrap it.

If you are wearing it with jeans, out to da club or whatever, then perhaps it is doing what it is meant to do if you want a supersized pocket, collar, etc.

And if your arms are thin, the sleeves are too voluminous. I left that in case you have big arms compared to your torso and a narrower sleeve is not so possible.

Hope you were not taken too badly for this work. Clever enough username, good luck.

Wow first of all, thank you so much for your many responses. This is tremendous I mean this is literally the best forum I ever joined..

Now that you all shared your opinions solely based on the pictures, I would like to give you some background.

I don't know if you noticed but the key difficulty in tailoring a well fitting shirt for me is the dramatically declining angle of my shoulders. Not a big deal in general, I really only noticed that when I started being interested in wearing formal clothes, as this seems to be quite a big problem as far as shirts are concerned. It basically puts everything off the table that is ready-made. (You're familiar with the 'upside down V-shaped fold'? if not I can add a picture of me wearing any other shirt, no problem) it's not that rare actually I noticed but most people don't seem to care as much if their shirt fits nicely or not.
Anyways, over the last year I went to a number of different shirt makers (chemisiers?) some of them with very good reputation but even with several readjustments they all completely failed to design the shoulder in a way that would avoid unwanted folds.


Now the shirt I showed you is the result of my last try with a really professional tailor who creates everything from the scratch, no different company for the sewing, all handmade. Basically what I'm trying to say is that this issue is what all focus has been on up until now and compared to what I tried before I have to say I'm fairly happy with it. I do however understand the other issues about the shirt that you mentioned and that is also why I'm really glad I decided to come to you with this. During the process of creating this shirt (I tried and had him do changes like 3-4 times) I didn't pay much attention to other details that might be important nor did I have enough experience to really tell.

So about these issues. Yes the collar is ridiculously huge that was not really my idea, I went along with it but I'm gonna have that replaced for sure. About the 'pink' that must be the lighting of the image, the fabric is actually completely non-transparent.
Beside said shoulder angle I am quite skinny as well, that's right, but far from abnormal. Might also appear more extreme on the photos.
What I can say about the tailor, is that I am under the impression that he's very professional and able to do just about anything but maybe not that experienced in terms of men's shirts so I'm gonna have to make explicit instructions. After all the trouble I already went through, I'm convinced he's my best shot..

Thanks again for your suggestions, I'll be sure to mention all of it when I go see the tailor in a couple of days.


Let me know if you have any other thoughts/suggestions.
Oh and yeah this is supposed to be mainly worn with a suit. I just thought you could see the cut better if it's not tucked into the pants.

better photos

with someone else holding the camera
front collar buttoned/untucked/cuffs unbuttoned and sleeves pulled taught.

front collar buttoned/tucked in/cuffs buttoned
back tucked in.
and side tucked in.

then we can give a better assessment

pocket looks too large and set too high.

Too much shape at the waist darts would be better.

Apollotrader said:

its horrible, start over, go to a different tailor. Anybody who said that is their best work should be put to the sword. Just look at the pocket, so far over on the side and way too big. It is clearly an OTR that has been cut down, horribly.

Don't order MTM shirts with a pocket, IMHO.

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Agree. The first thing I noticed was the huge pocket!



Shirtmaven said:

better photos
with someone else holding the camera
front collar buttoned/untucked/cuffs unbuttoned and sleeves pulled taught.
front collar buttoned/tucked in/cuffs buttoned
back tucked in.
and side tucked in.
then we can give a better assessment
pocket looks too large and set too high.
Too much shape at the waist darts would be better.

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This

If the shirt is intended to be worn with a suit, then its impossible to give fully meaningful feedback on the basis of the existing pics you have posted (other than to reiterate that (i) the pocket is too big (I wouldn't have a pocket at all), (ii) the collar is too big and (iii) the waist is too tapered).