Cutting fat while gaining muscle/ size - Page 2

yeah bodybuilders do that a lot because it's far more efficient, but imho for normal joes lean gains is probably the best way to go. most people don't have the discipline and time to go through bulking and cutting cycles. most people also just want to get a little leaner, stronger, and bigger not bb competition levels (which a lot of people find grotesque)

I was 5'8 185 at sub 6% and am now around 165...so its not like you have to keep the bulk forever. I still have a good V taper but much smaller

wait you lost 20 lb??????

with my metabolism where it is its tough to maintain that weight and muscle mass...even more so when i gave up lifting weights and began running for over a year as well as stopped eating the required diet to keep where I was.


But I am a lean 165-170 10-11% percent right now with casual working out 2-3 times a week now and running 2-3 times a week.

But I also drink more than I should and don't eat enough...

interesting. i dont think i've heard much of people trying to lose muscle mass (usually the other way around), but if you're not competing i guess you don't need to weigh that much.

more so because i bought my first suit out of college and wanted it to fit for awhile and i was sick of buying new clothes all the time...ive finally found a build i am comfortable maintaing for awhile.

Sub 6? I'm assuming you were competing then? Damn impressive if it's true.

No for my own personal reasons. I was just really really into it for 2 years. No alcohol weighting food, bulking but doing it clean which was so so difficult. I would use my cafe's dining plan and eat two sandwhichs at lunch two for dinner on top of my own post work out dinner. Probably ate a good 6-7k worth of calories a day and cut on around 2.2k for 6 months.

Then senior year came around and I just decided I wanted to enjoy myself.

I still enjoy it but not as much, i don't even take protein pwo because I am too poor haha. Rent is 50 percent of my income every month.

body builded for 2 years. 185lb at 6% bf, wait wut? You natty brah.

Yes natty, I BB seriously for 2 years everything written down and planed out. I started lifting at 16 and this was when I was 21-22.

If you want to gain size, just nut up and do Starting Strength for a year and you'll make huge gains. I did it for a while and then wrecked my knee playing basketball, so I had surgery for that back in February which stopped all my gains. I was able to work out again at the end of April after 6 weeks on crutches - safe to say my legs shrunk considerably. I went from a bodyweight of 190lbs at 6'2" to 210lbs currently. My lifts have also shot up and I'm definitely more filled out than before. You'll put on some fat, but you'll also build a lot more muscle. If you want to/have to do a BB split for some reason, at least do it properly and track everything. The reason so many BB splits seem to fail for the average lifter is because they think they're easier to do and never up weights between workouts. 

 

No matter what program you do, follow it to a T, don't miss any workouts, and give it 100% or you'll fail to achieve anything. A poorly designed program performed at 100% (increasing weights, not missing, recovering properly) is better than a perfect program that you half ass the whole time.

 

But personally, I'd say go balls out on Starting Strength for a year and you'll get a hell of a lot stronger and put on some serious size. 

How did you measure?

http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/thenaturalone/

At those numbers you'd almost be world champion

For calorie counting this app is pretty hard to beat. Apart from being able to manually add things in there is a barcode scanner which has most items pre-saved in it already. Not sure if there is an iPhone equivalent though.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fatsecret.android&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5mYXRzZWNyZXQuYW5kcm9pZCJd

 

Lots of research recently regarding weight loss recently seems to indicate that diet is the most important factor in weight loss rather than exercise (not that it's not important). I guess you are what your eat.