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post #586 of 3717
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Originally Posted by DLester View Post

How about this for Arsenal --> Fire Wenger, hire Mourinho. Madness? OR GENIUS?

this requires having thugs as players. rvp and gibbs would snap as they tried stabbing opposition players. meatsacker would fall over himself. closest thing is arshavin but he's usually too inebriated
post #587 of 3717
damn it strawberry town you suck ! Ox-cart scores
post #588 of 3717
You guys playing FIFA 12 experience this? I can't believe EA would allow this crap to happen...hopefully the finished product fixes those impact physics.
post #589 of 3717
what that's nothing new fifa makes fun of handicaps, blacks, everyone

even tho i don't play games, PES > FIFA
post #590 of 3717
Jeezus, we Interistas are paying a high price for these recent winning seasons....
Inter lose to Novara 1-3??
Novara???
Novara, who are in their first season in Seria A in 55 years????

Gasp has got to go, and now, He has completely lost the team. This is pathetic. What a disaster. At least now Moratti realizes this is the last Gasp. Ranieri, Figo, van Gaal, Cuper, Baresi, my cousin Nicola...anyone will be better for now, but Moratti was an idiot in not signing Villas-Boas....
post #591 of 3717
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Originally Posted by Jared7 View Post






So, hows the game working out for you and scummy Leeds?

Oh thats right...

0-3 Half-time

Hahahaha



You do realise its the champions of England against a Second Division side? Nice set of Turkey flags, didn't see them on your way into the ground.
post #592 of 3717
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Originally Posted by KitAkira View Post

He lives in Seattle, asshat. I've never even been to Great Britain, doesn't mean I can't support my Gunners


If you are being serious I hope you realise how fucking stupid you sound.
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Originally Posted by Sir Humphrey Appleby View Post


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You do realise they have been in the Champions League group stages every season for the last 15 or so? That's quite a good record imo.

who cares about group stages. do you know what we used to achieve ? when wenger used to spend money on players, develop them, when he used to have tactics, when he used to have a plan A and a plan B? we don't even have a strategy now except trying to play keep-away and even that failed, look at possession % recently it's gone down the drain. you realize it's been a decline for the past 6 years right ? even our purchases have been getting worse, probably correlated with the departure of david dein. we are a for-profit club, nobody cares if we win trophies or not so long as we get that coveted 4th place spot. since 2006, we've made a *net* profit of ~60m in the transfer market and yet look at where we are, it's never re-invested and wenger refuses to buy any worthwhile talent. we get rid of bendar and now have turned into the kind of club bendar should be playing for, that's how you can tell this club is going to hell. Quality players on the cheap that would have fit our team: cabaye for 4.8M. Tiote for 3.2M, several japenese full backs. Saha on a one year contract. Scott parker. All these for pennies in terms of salary too. if you have spent any time watching these players you'd know well they're all better than the trash we've taken on or the current crop of potential failures we have. and money can't be the excuse when we sign arteta for 10m 5 years on 50k+ and that leper yossi who is a useless sack of bones...

Earlier this summer ~
"Imagine the worst situation - we lose Fabregas and Nasri," stated Wenger. "You cannot convince people you are ambitious after that. You cannot pretend you are a big club. A big club holds onto its big players and gives a message out to all the other big clubs that they just cannot come in and take [players] away from you." -- Arsene Wenger

in all honesty, i want us to drop as many points as possible. it's like chemotherapy, lot of bad side effects, but ultimately we get rid of that cancer that is wenger. this is the only way to get him out, he's too arrogant to give up on his retarded philosophy (which he admits he would never try again at a new club should he move on)

You do realise that no club can stay at the very top every single season don't you? Its not the SPL. How many English clubs have won a major competition since Arsenal? 7:

Scum, Chelsea have won the First Division, Man City, Portsmouth, Liverpool have won the FA Cup, Birmingham and Spurs have won the League Cup. How fucking hard it must be to be an Arsenal fan.
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Originally Posted by DLester View Post

^ well I figured we would have a United supporter come around to gloat before long. Go ahead, no one has anything to throw back at you these days.
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Arsenal are giving me the "there but for the grace of God go us all" feeling. It could happen to any of the top clubs. It happened to Leeds a long time ago, before my time. I hope they sort it out.

How about this for Arsenal --> Fire Wenger, hire Mourinho. Madness? OR GENIUS?

Genius as long as you can persuade him to go there.

As for the scummer, I'm sure this is something to throw back at him even if they do have the bragging rights
Edited by Sir Humphrey Appleby - 9/21/11 at 7:40am
post #593 of 3717
Holy shit, Gasperini got the axe?

I caught the Novara - Inter match a little after half time. Pretty crazy stuff.
post #594 of 3717
Wenger been running the show for 14 years. First half was incredible, he put Arsenal on the map, made us champions, made us a threat in all competitions, teams feared us, we attracted all kinds of talent, roamed around europe thrashing teams and even coming close to conquest.

Since then, it's been down hill. Not even counting this year which is destined to fail, Wenger for the past 6 years has failed to meet any objective aside from qualifying for the CL. What are these objectives ? Well ultimately qualifying for CL does little in terms of revenue as compared to winning a trophy, and trophies are the ultimate (not only) measure of success. So 6 years, 4 trophies each season that we legitimately set out to win -- not counting garbage like the Emirates Cup which we host and couldn't even win this season -- so a total of 24 objectives none of which were met.
Now if you have been a great employee for 7 years, and you spend the next 6 years of your career not meeting a single objective, will you be kept on board simply because of past achievements? or is it fair to say you no longer have what it takes to compete ?

It's clearly not an issue of unable to spend because A) the board keeps reiterating the amount of money available for spending B) we do spend just in retarded ways on a bunch of young unproven talent or now washed up has-beens rather than in one big sum on someone who can improve the squad C) we have generated net profit for the past 5 years in the range of 60m D) wenger doesn't like spending in keeping true to his philosophy E) our wage system is beyond retarded, RVP and Pingpong are earning much more similar wages than say Rooney and Evans, in fact we have almost the same annual per-player salary as United which goes to show that we are spending way too much on the kids and not enough on our real talents -- hence the departures. We can no longer attract top players but instead only those in the French league who view us as a spring-board for launching their careers. And the clubs that now perform better than us, say in the bundesliga, spend as little if not less than we do. i'm not a finance guy i don't care about spotless balance sheets...

And to add insult to injury, Arsene Wenger wants 'another 14 years' at Arsenal
post #595 of 3717
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Originally Posted by Sir Humphrey Appleby View Post


If you are being serious I hope you realise how fucking stupid you sound.

Way to make friends and influence people, douche.

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Originally Posted by shahanshah View Post

Now if you have been a great employee for 7 years, and you spend the next 6 years of your career not meeting a single objective, will you be kept on board simply because of past achievements? or is it fair to say you no longer have what it takes to compete ?

I totally agree - managers, even the best ones get rotated all the time after periods of ineffectivity. I think in the natural process of things it's just time for him to move on and for Arsenal to revamp. Since the Invincibles, you don't see headlining names coming to Arsenal. Assuredly, Wegner brings up these kids and then they go on to be stars (Nasri? Fabregas?) But he is turning the Gunners into a feeder club. They haven't posed a serious threat in Europe for years.
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Originally Posted by hhenryhhh View Post

Holy shit, Gasperini got the axe?

Music to venessian's ears, no? I read that they're throwing around Ancelotti's name to come in and replace him. I think it might be interesting if they could force some sort of move to bring in Capello, vacating the English seat for Redknapp.

Although this sort of quick-sacking brings up another point that I think about frequently - how much impact does a manager really have on the performance of his team? I mean, short of personel decisions, how do they directly impact the pitch? You have a championship team one season and then they struggle the next... is it always the managers fault? Sometimes I think that team squads need to be shaken up more frequently than the manager... but just opinion. Thoughts?

Ex. Would Spain still dominate if it wasn't Del Bosque at the helm? Almost assuredly. Would Barça if it wasn't Guardiola? Probably too. I mean - Madrid, second place finish for Pelligrini, Mourinho, who knows who else (just about everyone over the last five years baring the 07-08 season, I think... That to me screams more personel issues rather than the manager.
Edited by El Argentino - 9/21/11 at 8:21am
post #596 of 3717
Oh too - great article on Javier Zanetti's performance for Inter. Great read.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/feature/_/id/959834/zanetti-continues-to-push-the-boundaries?cc=5901
post #597 of 3717
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Originally Posted by El Argentino View Post

Way to make friends and influence people, douche.
Support: To strengthen the position of (a person or community) by one's assistance, countenance, or adherence; to uphold the rights, claims, authority, or status of; to stand by, back up.

I think its quite hard to assist or back up a football team without actually being in the stadium and singing, don't you?
post #598 of 3717
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Originally Posted by shahanshah View Post

Wenger been running the show for 14 years. First half was incredible, he bought Bergkampput Arsenal on the map, made us champions, made us a threat in all competitions, teams feared us, we attracted all kinds of talent, roamed around europe thrashing teams and even coming close to conquest.

FTFY
post #599 of 3717
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Originally Posted by Sir Humphrey Appleby View Post

Support: To strengthen the position of (a person or community) by one's assistance, countenance, or adherence; to uphold the rights, claims, authority, or status of; to stand by, back up.

I think its quite hard to assist or back up a football team without actually being in the stadium and singing, don't you?

I wouldn't think so - Personally I've never been to Spain but I fully follow Real and watch every game each week. Adherence in that definition would lead me to believe that such a "supporter" is entirely possible.

That's like saying little kids that play football in Africa, the Mideast or Asia, wearing their ManU or Liverpool shirts 6 or 7 days a week don't really have any affection for "their" club. Sure, the line gets blurred between true hinchas and fair-weather fans in the digital age, but there are people outside the stadiums that follow clubs just as intensely as the select few that can afford seats in Stamford Bridge, Old Trafford or on Merseyside.
post #600 of 3717
you can also provide direct support through the purchase of accessories, memorabilia, etc
and in the case of spain, watching you team on tv increases tv viewership => generates more tv revenues => no shared profit system => direct profit for madlid
or attend tours in foreign countries
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