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[bbbrrian]

Guess I wasn't looking hard enough, thanks!

 

[eidolarr]



I would like to expand my reach into the motorcycle jackets with CE armor and a classical aesthetic that I can do well (not necessarily as TOJ but just as a new brand within my scope of knowledge gleaned from what I've done thus far), but the problem is that I am not (and never will be) a motorcycle rider, and due to my manufacturing I'm finding the jacket I want to make costs more than the average leather motorcycle jacket because a lot of that stuff is made in Pakistan and other places of low-quality hide, and has no regard for aesthetic appeal, they're just generic leather jackets that fashion dudes would never touch with a ten foot pole. There's a good place for what I want to make, but it's big project for me and will take time and maybe some help.

Sick dude

Drew used d3o armor in the horsehide moto. d3o is slimmer and more expensive than conventional armor. I tried so hard to get some for a vegetable tanned armored jacket, but unless you're a partner you can't buy the pieces individually... the best I was able to come up with was buying a Furygan jacket and cutting it apart.

The closest thing to modern stylish moto gear is Dethkillers, which also uses d3o, but I can't find pics anywhere. Otherwise you're choosing between power ranger suit or superbaggy harley leather coated in skull graphics.

Drew, I know you said the horsehide jacket wouldn't be a "true" motorcycle jacket in the sense that you wouldn't be able to fall with it several times and keep wearing it, but the calf you use feels sturdier than the leather on my dainese jacket. If you added some armor I'm pretty sure you'd be there.

 

[cl smooth]

how much does the lamb break in? Just got my black lamb cwu, its amazing, but a little tight, partcularly in the waist, when zipped up. Does this go away after a bunch of wear? how much can I expect it to stretch and mold to my body, if at all?

 

[otc]



Sick dude
Drew used d3o armor in the horsehide moto. d3o is slimmer and more expensive than conventional armor. I tried so hard to get some for a vegetable tanned armored jacket, but unless you're a partner you can't buy the pieces individually... the best I was able to come up with was buying a Furygan jacket and cutting it apart.
The closest thing to modern stylish moto gear is Dethkillers, which also uses d3o, but I can't find pics anywhere. Otherwise you're choosing between power ranger suit or superbaggy harley leather coated in skull graphics.
Drew, I know you said the horsehide jacket wouldn't be a "true" motorcycle jacket in the sense that you wouldn't be able to fall with it several times and keep wearing it, but the calf you use feels sturdier than the leather on my dainese jacket. If you added some armor I'm pretty sure you'd be there.

I think something has changed since the first time I saw Drew mention this jacket (since I immediately looked and couldn't find the armor stocked anywhere).

A bunch of the usual motorcycle sources have the pieces available for sale for about the same price as Knox CE armor.

They seem to be selling it as replacements for Klim jackets/pants but don't seem to care about verifying if you actually own any Klim gear. I'm thinking about swapping out my elbow pads with it (not sure my jacket would fit right in the shoulders if I used slimmer armor up there).

 

[eidolarr]

I saw the Klim stuff too when I was searching, but that stuff is CE1, which is good enough for biking but not motorcycling. What you really want is the Xergo line, which I can't find anywhere.

 

[impolyt_one]

What do you guys think about Hiprotec CE armor at 6mm?

 

[eidolarr]

Go for full CE2 safety. People seem to fall into two camps: ATGATT and "******* I'm lazy, I'll wear sneakers and jeans and a leather jacket". Well, I guess there are also squids, but they're not long for this world...

If I'm going for armored gear, I'm already buying into safety over fashion. I'm not gonna be like, "I'll sacrifice a little bit of style for safety, but only 6mm!"

 

[Arethusa]

Is shearling definitely off the table for the future?

breaking my heart here

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also, sent you PM

 

[eidolarr]

Also drew I think you would have to reconsider your vendetta against double zips for a moto jacket, especially if the leather is tough. Can't imagine trying to ride an R6 leaning way forward with a mess of vegetable tanned leather bunching in front...

 

[Arethusa]

Eh? I think all motos come/came with double zips unless you specified silver hardware, which I think was just only available as a single zip.

 

[brad-t]

going forward, single-zip only

 

[Arethusa]

aw no

 

[Danzar]

I'm surprised there hasn't been another surge of shearling requests;

 

[Alphataru]

I'm surprised there hasn't been another surge of shearling requests;

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Is it from a movie?

 

[Find Finn]

The new batman movie