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post #931 of 1169
The chest is very drapey actually, the waist is loose. I think nipping the waist more would give that effect. I'm fine with it as is i want to wear it more before changing anything. I
post #932 of 1169
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I actually wanted to try them out. But looking at this suit I am having second thoughts...
post #933 of 1169
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I actually wanted to try them out. But looking at this suit I am having second thoughts...

Compared to whom? NSM?
I would take it any time over Mina's confections.
post #934 of 1169
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Compared to whom? NSM?
I would take it any time over Mina's confections.

 

So sensitive. No one even mentioned Mina but you felt compelled to take a potshot.

 

Pasha - Frank's stuff is not typically styled like that. Take the pic of PB's suit w/ you and ask Frank to make it more waisted with a higher buttoning point, and you'll be fine.

post #935 of 1169
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So sensitive. No one even mentioned Mina but your insecurity compelled you to take a potshot.

Pasha - Frank's stuff is not typically styled like that. Take the pic of PB's suit w/ you and ask Frank to make it more waisted with a higher buttoning point, and you'll be fine.

Hmm. Negative references to NSM denote insecurity?
post #936 of 1169
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Hmm. Negative references to NSM denote insecurity?

 

In the manner put forward by you, probably.

post #937 of 1169
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Originally Posted by Pasha View Post

I actually wanted to try them out. But looking at this suit I am having second thoughts...
What made you want to try them? Was it based on other pictures? If it was, why is this one suit changing your mind? PB's stuff is typically a good example of how flexible Frank is IMO.
post #938 of 1169
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In the manner put forward by you, probably.

Are you in any way professionally qualified to judge others' psychological
states? My guess is not at all.
post #939 of 1169
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Originally Posted by Pasha View Post

I actually wanted to try them out. But looking at this suit I am having second thoughts...

Typical from somebody inexperienced. There are a number of facts here:

1. Im not skinny and I'm not athletic
2. The suit has all of the earmarks of a good fitting suit: tight collar, good sleeve pitch, high armholes, smooth perfect shoulders no pulls or anything.
3. I was the one who wanted the button stance lowered
4. Everything else is purely stylistic
5. Frank wants to make a lean suit, but I don't

It goes back to the old foo saying of nip anything at the waist and people go nutso for it. Waist suppression isn't what makes a suit great. I would say it is of the least importance. Of the most important this suit has 9 ticks out of 10 a much better score than 99% of the population if you ask me.
post #940 of 1169
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Typical from somebody inexperienced. There are a number of facts here:

1. Im not skinny and I'm not athletic
2. The suit has all of the earmarks of a good fitting suit: tight collar, good sleeve pitch, high armholes, smooth perfect shoulders no pulls or anything.
3. I was the one who wanted the button stance lowered
4. Everything else is purely stylistic
5. Frank wants to make a lean suit, but I don't

It goes back to the old foo saying of nip anything at the waist and people go nutso for it. Waist suppression isn't what makes a suit great. I would say it is of the least importance. Of the most important this suit has 9 ticks out of 10 a much better score than 99% of the population if you ask me.

Patrick, in regard to points #3 and #5, it seems like at least part of Franks's stylistic instinct runs directly counter to yours. Does it ever become fatiguing to guide Frank toward what you want rather than using a tailor whose natural inclinations match yours?
post #941 of 1169
Not really. I think he knows what I like at this point in terms of overall fit and structure. All changes are kind of on the fly and not really fundamental to the garment "fitting". For example, the button point, my fitting didn't have buttons on it and I just kind of touched where I wanted it and said I wanted the button to be there and he made a mark. No conversation or anything. I also think it is important to note that I, the customer, am happy with my suit and Frank has always made me happy even when I have been a pain in the ass in the past. I think that is what matters.
post #942 of 1169
What are the alternatives to Ercole's in this price point in NYC? Thanks. After losing a bunch of weight, I need to have some suits made for formal activities coming in the near future!
post #943 of 1169
I missed the star head pic of booth the first time. In that pic, the button stance looks good. Though I would still space them out more. But in the others, the waist button looks too low.

This is purely an aesthetic choice, I hasten to add. In every other respect, the suit fits extremely well. The crankiness about it makes me lol.
post #944 of 1169
^^None that I would recommend, speaking from experience
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^^None that I would recommend, speaking from experience
Do you recommend Ercole? What about LS? I've heard good things about them over time...
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