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Riots in Toronto

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Originally Posted by globetrotter
look, you can't blame the cops if everyone is always giving them **** for being a little rough with assholes. in the morning breifing the chief of police should have offered a 2 week vacation to anybody who shot dead a rioter. that might have gotten some results.


Maurice Papon was not available to write that memo...
 

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but yes - they don't understand globalization and they don't WANT to understand globalization, so none of their protests are going to make sense

there is also a large subset of protesters who just want to turn this thing into a pro-marijuana street rally, and another group who are not violent themselves, but get pissed off when the actual violent protesters get arrested

it's just a perfect storm of stupidity
 

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Too many laughing, smiling faces for me to believe the protesters think anything important is at stake. Its just young men grabbing an opportunity to have some daring fun that doesnt involve car racing or drinking and brawling with each other.

Them and the nomadic pack of assorted imbeciles that always show up at this kind of "event" to push for medical marijuana or helmets on baby seals or veganism or aroma therapy or womyns separatism.
 

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Originally Posted by oman
globetrotter i can try and explain it to you, but it's very complicated and i'm sure i'll miss a lot of the nuances

i'm sure of one thing, though: that a proximate cause, if not a root cause, is a lack of education about these issues they're protesting about

which is weird because a lot of these people are university students, not exactly your prototypical ignorant crowd


fair enough, and I don't want to have a knee jerk reaction and say that they are all ignorant. but thousands of people are out there smashing stuff, and they aren't making their messege clear about what pisses them off. what do they want? anybody?
 

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It's not thousands of people smashing stuff, it's a very small group, mostly the Black Bloc. These are "anarchist" types who I'd imagine are basically just adolescents pissed off at the world. I doubt they have a very deep understanding of the issues besides hating corporations and capitalists. They're just angry young people who want to make a difference, but not motivated or intelligent enough to do it without resorting to violence.

They think they're on some V for Vendetta type ****.
 

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Originally Posted by oman
globetrotter i can try and explain it to you, but it's very complicated and i'm sure i'll miss a lot of the nuances

i'm sure of one thing, though: that a proximate cause, if not a root cause, is a lack of education about these issues they're protesting about

which is weird because a lot of these people are university students, not exactly your prototypical ignorant crowd


These are NOT university students destroying property and protesting. I am currently an U of T student, and although some of the arrests were made on university grounds, the only link is the proximity of the arrests.
The university was locked down from wednesday onwards for the remainder of the G20 and all facilities were cleared. Even the residence students were kicked out of the grounds and told not to return until Monday. The news of 70 some black bloc protesters arrested near the graduate house with weapons were on university grounds without the consent of the school.
 

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Originally Posted by phildo
It's not thousands of people smashing stuff, it's a very small group, mostly the Black Bloc. These are "anarchist" types who I'd imagine are basically just adolescents pissed off at the world. I doubt they have a very deep understanding of the issues besides hating corporations and capitalists. They're just angry young people who want to make a difference, but not motivated or intelligent enough to do it without resorting to violence.

yeah, pretty much
 

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Originally Posted by deranged
These are NOT university students destroying property and protesting. I am currently an U of T student, and although some of the arrests were made on university grounds, the only link is the proximity of the arrests. The university was locked down from wednesday onwards for the remainder of the G20 and all facilities were cleared. Even the residence students were kicked out of the grounds and told not to return until Monday. The news of 70 some black bloc protesters arrested near the graduate house with weapons were on university grounds without the consent of the school.
GSU, buddy there is definitely a story there you can't use Grad Student Union facilities as your headquarters for blowing up cop cars without raising some eyebrows
 

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Originally Posted by oman
but yes - they don't understand globalization and they don't WANT to understand globalization, so none of their protests are going to make sense

there is also a large subset of protesters who just want to turn this thing into a pro-marijuana street rally, and another group who are not violent themselves, but get pissed off when the actual violent protesters get arrested

it's just a perfect storm of stupidity


I am in favor of shooting stupid people.
 

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Originally Posted by oman
which is weird because a lot of these people are university students, not exactly your prototypical ignorant crowd

Most university students are still pretty stupid and their stupidity is exacerbated by their ridiculous idealism.
 

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Originally Posted by globetrotter
no issues, let them protest peacefully. what are they protesting? what do they want? I don't get it.

exactly, somehow ******* up store fronts is going to show the government to stop wasting all of its money. if anything these companies they are destroying produce jobs, they arent adding to the deficit. the protestors should be dragging welfare recipients out of their houses and humiliating them, although i would be willing to bet a good deal of the protesters get government aid in one way or the other.
 

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Originally Posted by ihambrecht
exactly, somehow ******* up store fronts is going to show the government to stop wasting all of its money. if anything these companies they are destroying produce jobs, they arent adding to the deficit. the protestors should be dragging welfare recipients out of their houses and humiliating them, although i would be willing to bet a good deal of the protesters get government aid in one way or the other.

And that they pay almost no taxes.
 

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Originally Posted by ihambrecht
exactly, somehow ******* up store fronts is going to show the government to stop wasting all of its money. if anything these companies they are destroying produce jobs, they arent adding to the deficit. the protestors should be dragging welfare recipients out of their houses and humiliating them, although i would be willing to bet a good deal of the protesters get government aid in one way or the other.

theyre not protesting government spending

i have no idea how you got that out of this
 

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