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post #1 of 32
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An article today from yahoo:

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There are times to be competitive. Moments when all you want to do is humiliate your opponent as you defeat him. It's the nature of sports, and what our internal competition meters usually read.

That, we all know, is how athletes feel most of the time. But, at times, and these are few and far between, we see acts that defy wins and losses. A moment when a girl is brought in on crutches to score a layup to break a record or someone being carried around the field after she twisted her ankle rounding the bases. Opponents coming together to transcend the game.

That is what happened between two collegiate golfers, vying for a spot in the NAIA National Championship.

Grant Whybark (left), a sophomore at the University of St. Francis, had locked up a spot in nationals with his team, which won the Chicagoland Collegiate Athletic Conference Championship, but was in a playoff against Olivet Nazarene's Seth Doran (right) for individual honors.

As championships go, both the winning team and winning individual are asked to move on to nationals, so if Whybark won the playoff against Doran, he'd be honoring both spots and Doran wouldn't be asked to move on.

What happened next is the type of stuff movies are made about. Whybark stood over his tee shot on the first playoff hole, looked down the fairway and back at his ball, and hit it 40 yards right of the fairway, out of bounds by a mile. He made double bogey, Doran made par, and Olivet Nazarene had a man in nationals.

What makes it so incredible? Whybark intentionally did it, because he felt Doran had earned a spot in the next round.

"We all know Seth very well," Whybark explains, "and he not only is a very good player, but a great person as well. He's a senior and had never been to nationals. Somehow, it just wasn't in my heart to try to knock him out.

"I think some people were surprised, but my team knew what I was doing and were supportive of me. I felt Seth deserved to go (to nationals) just as much as I did.

"It was one of those things where I couldn't feel good taking something from him like this. My goal from the start was to get (to nationals) with my team. I had already done that."

Too many times we read about cheap shots or fights or cheaters, and it is stories like this that make it all seem petty. A golfer simply knew his place, was comfortable with where he was, and thought that a senior, playing in his final tournament as a collegiate golfer, had done enough to earn one more week with the game he loved.

I'm not a big believer in karma, and I'm sure the story won't end the way it should, but if Whybark somehow won nationals, it would make for a really nice screenplay.

Whybark did what most of us would never do, and although he is short a trophy in his case, he earned respect from anyone reading this story.

Nice shot, kiddo.

So, what do you think?
post #2 of 32
Alot of times when playing against someone or a team (especially if you've played against them quite a bit) you gain respect for your opponent. When I play softball, there are teams that we can send home if we win and that gives us added fuel because we want to send them home since we don't like them. There are other teams we beat and hope that they go on to win their other games so that we can play them in the championship again, for the sole reason that we like them, and would like to play against them again rather than another team, even if they are better than the other teams. I see nothing wrong with this as the guy had already gained his entry and as such through respect and admiration for his opponent felt that he deserved entry as well.
post #3 of 32
Watch some asshole administrator somewhere decide that Whybark's actions were detrimental to the sport or some such b.s. Classy move by a young man.
post #4 of 32
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Originally Posted by Dakota rube View Post
Watch some asshole administrator somewhere decide that Whybark's actions were detrimental to the sport or some such b.s.

Classy move by a young man.

Indeed.

Loving the new avatar Rube
post #5 of 32
If I were the other golfer I would be pissed.
post #6 of 32
i dont know . you ask me , i dont like being given a handout in a competition. i dont like that feeling. this has nothing to do with sportsmanship. you play your best and within the rules and sportsmanship arises from that. and afterwards when the game is over. it is a nice thing the guy did, but i dont consider that as 'sportsmanship'.
post #7 of 32
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Originally Posted by sho'nuff View Post
i dont know . you ask me , i dont like being given a handout in a competition. i dont like that feeling. this has nothing to do with sportsmanship. you play your best and within the rules and sportsmanship arises from that. and afterwards when the game is over. it is a nice thing the guy did, but i dont consider that as 'sportsmanship'.

I tend to agree with this. I think what the young man did was generous, but I don't think that's the same as sportsmanship. Sportsmanship is about playing within the rules, playing with integrity, and being a gracious winner/loser; it's not about giving a handout to your opponent.
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Originally Posted by Wallcloud View Post
If I were the other golfer I would be pissed.
no you wouldn't. The senior who had worked hard his golf career and either would have 1-2 bad bounces go his way to keep him out of nationals i'm sure is grateful. The other golfer was in regardless and for him it was more about his team winning and he was already in nationals. There were subtleties in there that aren't as simple as the stupid sport tautologies "YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME" "RIP THEIR HEART OUT, NEVER GIVE UP AND FIGHT LIKE A WARRIOR" kinda crap. I think people who played competitive sports their entire life at the high school, collegiate an aau/club level understand. Stuff like this happens in sports where there are questions and stuff surrounding records or accomplishments. Nobody cares years down the line and all that remains is the fact. Also, in 10 years, the kid will be remembering his experience at nationals that brought about a nice end to his collegiate career and years of hard work on his golf game. The kid who gave up the hole won't even remember/care 2 months from now. He's a sophomore. Probably busy chugging beer and knee deep in coed pussy (then again he's a golfer so i don't know. can have some partyers and also some nerds)
post #9 of 32
I played competitive basketball my whole life. No, not intramurals. I actually got a scholarship to a college to put points in peoples faces. I like to earn my athletic accomplishments. This guy was not injured or mentally retarded. No mitigating circumstances existed to warrant giving him a free pass. Generally you have to earn an invitation to a national tournament.
post #10 of 32
Like i said, in 10 years looking back, the experience of being at the national tournament to bring a close to your collegiate career (and probably competitive golf career) will be the main memory. Means nothing to the sophomore who blew the hole. It's one of those things that people who aren't involved seem to get really ramped up about but forget a day later because it doesn't concern them. All the people involved seemed to understand. There really isn't a similar thing in basketball as it's much more a beat down the other person kinda game because you can't succeed without someone else failing. I think there are more subtleties to this than tired sport tautologies about warriors and demolishing your opponent and such
post #11 of 32
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I'm in agreement with a few of the comments above. As a competitor, I wouldn't be proud or willing to accept a "gimme" from an opponent. It diminishes the value of the sport itself, and deserves no thanks.

Honestly, it's cheating. Simply because you're friends with another competitor does not make it okay to throw the game.
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Originally Posted by furo View Post
I'm in agreement with a few of the comments above. As a competitor, I wouldn't be proud or willing to accept a "gimme" from an opponent. It diminishes the value of the sport itself, and deserves no thanks.

Honestly, it's cheating. Simply because you're friends with another competitor does not make it okay to throw the game.

QFT

I am not ramped up about this. If I were the golfer who received this "favor", I would be embarrassed to show my face at the tournament.
post #13 of 32
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Originally Posted by furo View Post
I'm in agreement with a few of the comments above. As a competitor, I wouldn't be proud or willing to accept a "gimme" from an opponent. It diminishes the value of the sport itself, and deserves no thanks.

Honestly, it's cheating. Simply because you're friends with another competitor does not make it okay to throw the game.
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QFT

I am not ramped up about this. If I were the golfer who received this "favor", I would be embarrassed to show my face at the tournament.


+1
post #14 of 32
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Originally Posted by BDC2823 View Post
(...) I see nothing wrong with this as the guy had already gained his entry and as such through respect and admiration for his opponent felt that he deserved entry as well.

I'm with BDC here. Although I imagine that the recipient of said gesture would rather have earned it on the scorecard.
post #15 of 32
What if two football teams are tied at 9-6 and fighting for that last playoff spot and Team A plays a playoff team fighting for home field while Team B plays the Colts who have locked everything up and sit all their starters. Team A loses in a nailbiter and Team B wins because they are playing against a bunch of scrubs and Manning, Wayne, Freeney, etc. are all riding pine. Should Team B be embarrassed at getting that last playoff spot?
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