Bespoke Suit NYC - Under $2,500?

Originally Posted by Corniche

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For me bespoke should mean that a tailor should be able even to do a Sesame street disguise if you pay for it, if not he is only MTM.

Me , as interior designer should cover since my minimalist style to a " gay sauna " or a brothel inspired in a western saloon. If not I should say minimalistitc designer or English cut only faker bespoke tailor right?

My personal view.

I have no clue what you are saying.

Originally Posted by Corniche

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For me bespoke should mean that a tailor should be able even to do a Sesame street disguise if you pay for it, if not he is only MTM.

Me , as interior designer should cover since my minimalist style to a " gay sauna " or a brothel inspired in a western saloon. If not I should say minimalistitc designer or English cut only faker bespoke tailor right?

My personal view.

You can have whatever personal view you like, but reality is a different story.

I don't know of a single world-class tailor that is willing or capable of doing what you suggest. Moreover, a good tailor will not do whatever you ask of him--it's ultimately his job as a professional to prescribe the proper approach, and that means rejecting certain requests.

The chief purpose and benefit of bespoke is a custom fit, not the opportunity to design for yourself.

Originally Posted by mafoofan

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The chief purpose and benefit of bespoke is a custom fit, not the opportunity to design for yourself.

Tell that to Sator.

Originally Posted by Orgetorix

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Tell that to Sator.
The photos I've seen of his commissions don't seem particularly out-of-the-ordinary.

Originally Posted by teddieriley

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I have no clue what you are saying.

IQ minor than 80? With your avatar seems possible... This guy below must double you, sorry to say.

Originally Posted by mafoofan

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You can have whatever personal view you like, but reality is a different story.

I don't know of a single world-class tailor that is willing or capable of doing what you suggest. Moreover, a good tailor will not do whatever you ask of him--it's ultimately his job as a professional to prescribe the proper approach, and that means rejecting certain requests.

The chief purpose and benefit of bespoke is a custom fit, not the opportunity to design for yourself.

A bespoke tailor must know all styles in order to get the best lapels, etc that best fits to your body / face.

That is bespoke as spaniard bespoke tailors do ( some ones better than others) To personalice a suit based on your body not just to do on you their style. Example I want neapolitan shoulders with canali like medium lapels and extreme waist supression . Or I want a pink silk tuxedo with squared lapels on tiger skin. A " Bespoke" should do that as they did in the 30s and 40s.

Should many " Bespoke" tailors able to do that, ir they just clone their personal design over their customers over and over like a lot of " bespoke" ones?

I think most of them just abuse of their name and won´t be able to do a real bespoke from scratch.

Originally Posted by JibranK

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The photos I've seen of his commissions don't seem particularly out-of-the-ordinary.

However, he's made no secret of the fact that he's all but taken pattern drafting duties away from his tailor.

Anyone had a suit made by Bhambi's?

They do great alterations work.

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I could make a Neapolitan suit but I don't want to. I also wouldn't be the best at doing that kind of suit. That said of course you alter lapel, thigh, bottoms all kinds of things to suit the clients needs or wishes. I loathe belt loops on suits but I make suits with them, I also like roped shoulders but I made a suit recently with an Armani like shirt sleeve shoulder.

Comparing Neapolitan to English tailoring is a bit much though. If you have a tailor that can make a wonderful Neapolitan suit And a wonderful English style suit please tell us who he is and post some pictures.

Originally Posted by Corniche

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IQ minor than 80? With your avatar seems possible... This guy below must double you, sorry to say.



A bespoke tailor must know all styles in order to get the best lapels, etc that best fits to your body / face.

That is bespoke as spaniard bespoke tailors do ( some ones better than others) To personalice a suit based on your body not just to do on you their style. Example I want neapolitan shoulders with canali like medium lapels and extreme waist supression . Or I want a pink silk tuxedo with squared lapels on tiger skin. A " Bespoke" should do that as they did in the 30s and 40s.

Should many " Bespoke" tailors able to do that, ir they just clone their personal design over their customers over and over like a lot of " bespoke" ones?

I think most of them just abuse of their name and won´t be able to do a real bespoke from scratch.

I really don't know what this discussion is about. It has essentially
departed from common sense. Most tailors have a "house style"
which they prefer to work in. They may be technically be capable
of doing, or learning to do any style whatsoever, but tailors usually
do their best work in the general style they have adopted or developed.
A client should seek out the tailor (s) whose work best approximates
the client's preferences. To do otherwise, might be akin to pissing into
the wind".

Originally Posted by comrade

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I really don't know what this discussion is about. It has essentially
departed from common sense. Most tailors have a "house style"
which they prefer to work in. They may be technically be capable
of doing, or learning to do any style whatsoever, but tailors usually
do their best work in the general style they have adopted or developed.
A client should seek out the tailor (s) whose work best approximates
the client's preferences. To do otherwise, might be akin to pissing into
the wind".

Well said.

Another perfectly legitimate thread gets hijacked again.

Anyone with any useful information from my (OP) question?

Originally Posted by mockingboy

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Another perfectly legitimate thread gets hijacked again.

Anyone with any useful information from my (OP) question?

Yes. Go to Volpe or Solito and spend either slightly less or slightly more than your budget, and get a real Neapolitan suit, made in Naples.

Originally Posted by mockingboy

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Hello all- A subject that has been visited and re-visited but I am looking for a bespoke suit for under $2,500 in NYC and looking for recommendations. I am having trouble finding any deifnitive information on a lot of the tailors in NYC when I search SF. I would like it to be true bespoke but would hope the house style would have a Neapolitan-esque style. Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Mike
The Neapolitan look is far too unstructured for NYC and comes across as laconic.

Originally Posted by Film Noir Buff

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The Neapolitan look is far too unstructured for NYC and comes across as laconic.

Unfuckingbelievable.

Originally Posted by mafoofan

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Unfuckingbelievable.

No.