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post #1336 of 1486

The price tag of a lot of RgT shirts causes me to hesitate too, Cyc.  

 

I love the workshirt cut but at full price ($255) they are tough to stomach.  If they were priced around $150 I wouldn't hesitate but I haven't pulled the trigger on any of them yet this fall. Really tempted by the red vintage and the natural flannel.  Will end of splurging on one eventually....waffling for now.

post #1337 of 1486

Prices of RgT keep going up : (

post #1338 of 1486
i agree, its a premium brand and not trying to take anything away from them. only a few things I'll buy full price from them but a lot of my closet is RgT stuff bought off of ebay and grailed. i want the strange and standard flannel but I cant do $255 either
post #1339 of 1486
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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post

Prices of RgT keep going up : (

Agreed. I like RT but honestly, their shirts aren't worth >$200. Price of denim keeps going up as well, and I'm not seeing as much innovation as I used to a few years ago.
post #1340 of 1486
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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post

Prices of RgT keep going up : (

Agreed. I like RT but honestly, their shirts aren't worth >$200. Price of denim keeps going up as well, and I'm not seeing as much innovation as I used to a few years ago.

It may not be worth it to you but it is to others. Youre also buying/supporting US made. I have a filson cascade shirt that retails for $135, but its made in Portugal. I got it for under $100 on sale and i really liked the pattern, but even at $100 it felt expensive for a shirt made in Portugal. Likewise, a lot of japanese denim brands put out high quality denim and shirts that cost way more than RT.its about quality and style imo

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post #1341 of 1486
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Originally Posted by gaseousclay View Post

It may not be worth it to you but it is to others.

right - that applies to almost any page here, and doesn't change the fact that their prices have continued to go up without (what I consider) an increase in quality, improved fabrics, or anything else that would warrant higher prices. With that said, I get that prices for any goods naturally goes up, but I think at the current price point RT doesn't stand out from other brands.

Again - all my opinion. Obviously it's worth it to others, or they wouldn't have customers.
post #1342 of 1486
Prices are basically standard for a premium American made product. The $250 western shirts are 10 oz., like light jackets. The other stuff is more or less similar to what you would pay for a comparable item from Gitman or Engineered Garments.

There are arguably better values out there, if your mindset is utilitarian. With RT you are paying for the fit/style, integrity of the brand, country of origin ect. Which is fine for some people. Im willing to pay more for RT chinos and jeans because really like the fit and find Im better satisfied in the long run. I havent decided on the shirts yet.
Edited by goldenbear - 10/22/15 at 6:01am
post #1343 of 1486
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Originally Posted by mcdecker1 View Post

right - that applies to almost any page here, and doesn't change the fact that their prices have continued to go up without (what I consider) an increase in quality, improved fabrics, or anything else that would warrant higher prices. With that said, I get that prices for any goods naturally goes up, but I think at the current price point RT doesn't stand out from other brands.

Again - all my opinion. Obviously it's worth it to others, or they wouldn't have customers.

I only own the Ridgeline supply jacket so can't really comment on the fit/constuction/fabric details of RT's shirts. From what I can tell, one of RT's newer shirts has fabric exclusive to them, so that may warrant the price. I like some of RT's stuff but not all of their shirts, so I don't have a preference either way. I just know that his prices are basically in line with a lot of other premium US brands selling similar product. Another thing to keep in mind too is that the cost of raw materials will go up, so businesses often have to pass these costs down to the customer. At this point it isn't about how much more money a company can make but staying profitable and not taking a loss.
post #1344 of 1486
If you're bitching about the price. Don't buy it. This goes for anything. Givenchy sells $800 tshirts.........

Proving a clothing's worth by its retail price is worthless.
post #1345 of 1486
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I didn't see anyone 'bitching about the price'
post #1346 of 1486
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Originally Posted by djblisk View Post

If you're bitching about the price. Don't buy it. This goes for anything. Givenchy sells $800 tshirts.........

Proving a clothing's worth by its retail price is worthless.

I had to look that up. $700 t shirts made in Portugal (not even Italy). Wow.
post #1347 of 1486
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right - that applies to almost any page here, and doesn't change the fact that their prices have continued to go up without (what I consider) an increase in quality, improved fabrics, or anything else that would warrant higher prices. With that said, I get that prices for any goods naturally goes up, but I think at the current price point RT doesn't stand out from other brands.

Again - all my opinion. Obviously it's worth it to others, or they wouldn't have customers.

I only own the Ridgeline supply jacket so can't really comment on the fit/constuction/fabric details of RT's shirts. From what I can tell, one of RT's newer shirts has fabric exclusive to them, so that may warrant the price. I like some of RT's stuff but not all of their shirts, so I don't have a preference either way. I just know that his prices are basically in line with a lot of other premium US brands selling similar product. Another thing to keep in mind too is that the cost of raw materials will go up, so businesses often have to pass these costs down to the customer. At this point it isn't about how much more money a company can make but staying profitable and not taking a loss.

As the company grows, so does its production costs, marketing/advertising costs, web hosting costs, staff numbers and pay grade, larger spaces/warehouses, more labels / shipping supplies, and a million other things. It has nothing to do with the quality of the materials used.
post #1348 of 1486
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As the company grows, so does its production costs, marketing/advertising costs, web hosting costs, staff numbers and pay grade, larger spaces/warehouses, more labels / shipping supplies, and a million other things. It has nothing to do with the quality of the materials used.

But wouldnt increased profits offset all that? Otherwise what is the point of growing?
post #1349 of 1486
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Originally Posted by bigsink View Post

As the company grows, so does its production costs, marketing/advertising costs, web hosting costs, staff numbers and pay grade, larger spaces/warehouses, more labels / shipping supplies, and a million other things. It has nothing to do with the quality of the materials used.

But wouldnt increased profits offset all that? Otherwise what is the point of growing?

A small business may need to borrow to invest in themselves just go handle the growth. They might need to hire a bunch of qualified people (rather than close friends) running the show. They may need a larger office and storage spaces - it could be years before they recover or pay back those loans. What if they now have to buy 4x more supplies upfront to produce x number of clothing. Sure they will make their money back in time, or they might not. They forecast how things will pan out and make a bet that investing in the business will work out in x years. We don't know how the math works out. Point is prices may go up as the cost of doing business grows. Right now they could be deep in the hole. Just saying who knows.
post #1350 of 1486
The "Made in XYZ" arguments here never cease to amuse. rotflmao.gif
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