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Specific John White Shoes

2quiet

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Have heard that John White shoes are low quality for a number of reasons. Namely that they aren't welted and use a lesser quality of leather. This has always made them a brand to avoid, however recently I came across a pair that I wasn't sure whether this would apply to (to such a significant degree). The shoe in question is this: http://www.suitsmen.co.uk/shoes/105/ A black patent balmoral dress shoe. Because it's this kind of shoe, where competitors' shoes (at similar prices) are also rarely welted and more often cemented, and we're now dealing with patent rather than a leather such as calfskin, is it likely still to be of comparably poor quality? Asking because compared to a Sanders Strand (here: http://www.sanders-uk.com/products/Strand---7158BWL.php), the fitting (F) of the John White would be better for me than the fitting (G) of the Strand, and I could get the John White for less than half the price - this is always preferable everything else equal, of course, but seems especially so in this case since I'd attend an event at which I'd wear these maybe once or twice a year. The single difference make wise that I am sure of is that the John Whites have a resin sole, compared to the leather sole of the Sanders (and I'm not sure what I think about that, having not had resin soled shoes before). Other than that can't see much of a difference across the internet, so was wondering if anyone might be so kind as to help out! Thank you guys, have lurked here a while and have learned much from your community.
 

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Still wondering about these shoes, and in addition am wondering about opinions on swapping out the laces for some grosgrain ribon, which I saw done somewhere else and was intrigued by.

Thanks in advance.
 

Anthony Jordan

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It seems like a sound enough choice to me; the shoes don't seem badly styled and if the sole type and construction doesn't bother you, I wouldn't be overly concerned about it - as you say, you won't be wearing them that often. I ought to mention, however, that although both of my pairs of dress shoes (patent Oxfords and pumps) are Church's, I got them at very deep discounts (working out to about £25 a pair, I think), one from an Austin Reed store (slight seconds) and the other on eBay, so that might be an option worth considering as wel, if you have the time.
 

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Thanks Anthony. Am always on the lookout of eBay, FS board here, and places of that kin for some good quality, discounted shoes like the ones you were able to grab. Would ultimately love some patent pumps, but they either require waiting for on eBay, or waiting for to be made bespoke, and so I fear an event turning up and me not having shoes at the ready at all! With that in mind it seemed reasonable to take some cheaper balmorals from John White and then snare some pumps whenever I get fortunate enough to (or financially comfortable enough to buy some new - student income is kind of limiting!).

Thank you again Anthony,

and anyone else who would still reply!
 

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