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TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.
... meant to also add that I recently ordered a John Elliott + Co. hoodie, which I'll probably layer under the A-2.- killjoy32
- Post #41,407
- Forum: Streetwear and Denim
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TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.
Ordered my brown lambskin A-2 in June 2013, got it in February. Was too cold on the East Coast to get much use out of it by then, but with fall approaching, I figured I'd throw these up. Will wear it with an untucked oxford, light sweatshirt (lighter than this one) or sweater, jeans, and my...- killjoy32
- Post #41,405
- Forum: Streetwear and Denim
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TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.
I'm sure this has been discussed before, but what completes your TOJ outfit? What pair of jeans / pants look best? What shoes, shirts, sweaters, etc.? Trying to understand how everyone pulls from their wardrobe to best show off their jackets.- killjoy32
- Post #37,791
- Forum: Streetwear and Denim
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TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.
For those of you in college (or not yet in college), where did you / do you get the funds for TOJ jackets? I hope it's not too intrusive a question. It's just that I couldn't dream of owning one of these coats when I was that age.- killjoy32
- Post #37,784
- Forum: Streetwear and Denim
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TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.
I'm curious: How old are you guys? I'm 37, and I figure I'm on the way old side for this thread.- killjoy32
- Post #37,777
- Forum: Streetwear and Denim
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TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.
It took 34 weeks to the day, but I received my A-2 on Friday. Fit pics to come, but a few initial thoughts: -- I expected it to arrive in a bag (based on other peoples' comments), but it came in a box. The box was disconcertingly tiny. I feared I'd screwed up on my measurements so much that...- killjoy32
- Post #37,616
- Forum: Streetwear and Denim
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TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.
Had a pleasant surprise when I awoke: tracking on my brown lamb A-2 (ordered 6/21).- killjoy32
- Post #37,497
- Forum: Streetwear and Denim
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TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.
33 weeks.- killjoy32
- Post #37,403
- Forum: Streetwear and Denim
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TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.
I don't mind the wait. I only mind being given inaccurate ship dates. Would have been fine if I was initially told no decent estimate could be given. It's about managing expectations.- killjoy32
- Post #37,152
- Forum: Streetwear and Denim
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TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.
I ordered an A-2. I submitted my measurements, Charly made adjustments, I made a few more, and that was it. Paid / ordered on June 14 and never submitted a change after that date.- killjoy32
- Post #37,151
- Forum: Streetwear and Denim
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TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.
Why do I need to show "appreciation"? I paid -- that's me showing appreciation. If you consider TOJ more of a service than a business, have you tipped on your purchases? You know, it's OK for someone to express disappointment with his TOJ experience (in my case, repeated inaccurate ship...- killjoy32
- Post #37,131
- Forum: Streetwear and Denim
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TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.
I didn't know how TOJ works when I ordered, and that's my fault. But I asked the person who took my PayPal payment how long it would take, and I was given what turned out to be an innaccurate answer. In retrospect, obviously, I should have done a more thorough comb through of this thread...- killjoy32
- Post #37,128
- Forum: Streetwear and Denim
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TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.
We could argue back and forth about whether I'm entitled to an accurate assessment of when my order will be shipped. I say yes; you say no. In my mind, TOJ is a business subject to the same rules one would apply to commerce in general (including appropriate criticisms). You think TOJ is a...- killjoy32
- Post #37,124
- Forum: Streetwear and Denim
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TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.
A BCDR, probably.- killjoy32
- Post #37,122
- Forum: Streetwear and Denim
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TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.
I do understand how TOJ operates. I'm expressing an opinion about one facet of the operation based on my personal experience (and professional experience in fashion, merchandising and ecommerce). I'm not asking anyone to agree with me, and I respect the opinions of those who don't. But the...- killjoy32
- Post #37,118
- Forum: Streetwear and Denim
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TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.
When I ordered, I was told "somewhere around 16 weeks." I was not told, "My best guess is 16 weeks, but it could take 31." To be clear, I'm not putting this on Charly. As I said, I know this is a small operation. I'm just relaying what I was told when I ordered, which has turned out to be...- killjoy32
- Post #37,113
- Forum: Streetwear and Denim
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TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.
I'm at 31 weeks. I've emailed Charly sparingly, and each time he's given me a new ship date that comes and goes. A week ago, he told me my jacket would ship in a week. Didn't happen. While TOJ is absolutely brilliant at marketing, design and craftsmanship, the operation is completely...- killjoy32
- Post #37,097
- Forum: Streetwear and Denim
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TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.
Today marks 30 weeks since I ordered my A-2. Has anyone else ever hit 30?- killjoy32
- Post #36,910
- Forum: Streetwear and Denim
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TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.
It's about managing expectations. When I ordered my A2 on June 21, Charly confirmed what the website said: that the lead time would be about 16 weeks. That would have been Oct. 11. Obviously, the lead time is nowhere near 16 weeks. I just passed 27. Now, I'm not faulting Charly or anyone else...- killjoy32
- Post #36,589
- Forum: Streetwear and Denim
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TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.
26 weeks.- killjoy32
- Post #36,398
- Forum: Streetwear and Denim