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Roy's Jeans - Single Man Made

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by kiya, Oct 27, 2010.

  1. kiya

    kiya Well-Known Member

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    Introducing Roy's Jeans - Single Man Made

    Every now and then a product comes along that makes us rethink everything we know about jeans. This new product is from a man by the name of Roy Slaper. Roy's jeans bring aspects of jean production to light that we haven't seen on any level including deadstock vintage pairs.

    We've known Roy for a while and he's been steadily perfecting his craft over the past four years, when we finally saw the jeans he'd been making we had to rethink the entire idea of "hand made". The term is thrown around a lot these days with the resurgence of Americana and American made products, many of which unfortunately are lower in quality than their Asian made counterparts.

    Roy's jeans are made by one man, every aspect from the patterns to the leather patch starting out as a large piece of cowhide, Roy makes one pair at a time and nothing is automated. The studio where the jeans are made is filled with vintage pre-1960's machines by Union Special and Singer, the hardware is all made in Japan YKK, there are seven different thread types used, and the Roy signature on the pocket-bag is freehand chainstitched. We don't know of another jean available anywhere with this level of detail in the production.

    We've produced a video showing off some of Roy's skills, it was difficult to show what takes two hours or more compressed into a three minute long video, but we hope you enjoy seeing a glimpse into the world of Roy.
    Click the full-screen icon in the bottom right corner of the video for the full effect:
    https://www.selfedge.com/shop/index....index&cPath=88

    We're starting off this collection with two jeans. The RS1 is a straight leg fit and the RN1 is a narrow slim jean, both available in an unsanforized indigo selvedge denim. More to come in the future, even some tops.
    These are available now at all three Self Edge stores and in our online store, restocks will not come often with these.
    Check the online store for hi-res photos and full spec lists on these jeans:


    https://www.selfedge.com/shop/index....index&cPath=88


    Roy's RS1 - Straight Leg Jean
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    Roy's RN1 - Slim Leg Jean
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  2. whatever123

    whatever123 Well-Known Member

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    whats with the large price increase from when you could buy from roy? is it different denim? better hardware? aside from another cut, what is the difference? it looks like the same stuff you could get from roy but for alot less...just wondering?
     
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    Nice, these look great.
     
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    whats with the large price increase from when you could buy from roy? is it different denim? better hardware? aside from another cut, what is the difference? it looks like the same stuff you could get from roy but for alot less...just wondering?

    they're not available at his website anymore. it just redirects to selfedge.
     
  5. kiya

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    whats with the large price increase from when you could buy from roy? is it different denim? better hardware? aside from another cut, what is the difference? it looks like the same stuff you could get from roy but for alot less...just wondering?
    Hardware was different on the early pairs, leather is thicker and has gone through two steps of dying AND tanning, he's tweaked more of the details like the hip outseam stitch. Also, his first set of jeans which he was selling direct were in his words "practice".
     
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    they're not available at his website anymore. it just redirects to selfedge.
    yeah, i almost bought a pair when they were $150 or so back in may from him directly...but i never got around to it.
     
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    wow @ the price increase. well i think that covers the international shipping + selfedge's B&M store.
     
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    yeah, i almost bought a pair when they were $150 or so back in may from him directly...but i never got around to it.

    Yeah, I'm kicking myself now...
     
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    wow @ the price increase. well i think that covers the international shipping + selfedge's B&M store.
    plus there not "practice" jeans either. thats gotta be worth something i suppose...[​IMG] i guess a 2.5 x 3 leather patch and "different hardware" is worth a lot these days.
     
  10. Robert

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    "rethink everything we know about jeans"?! A bit hyperbolic, no?
     
  11. kiya

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    "rethink everything we know about jeans"?! A bit hyperbolic, no?

    Not until you realize the lengths Roy goes to make a single pair of jeans.
     
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    Not until you realize the lengths Roy goes to make a single pair of jeans.
    what exactly does roy do that is different then say, flat head or iron heart. in other words, is he doing something that is truly unique outside of limiting production?
     
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    Not until you realize the lengths Roy goes to make a single pair of jeans.

    I appreciate the care that he puts in to these, but "rethink everything" is hyperbolic, and, frankly, meaningless.
     
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    what exactly does roy do that is different then say, flat head or iron heart. in other words, is he doing something that is truly unique outside of limiting production?
    I appreciate the care that he puts in to these, but "rethink everything" is hyperbolic, and, frankly, meaningless.
    He makes every pair on his own, is it really that difficult to understand? This link shows the whole process how a good jean is made, if you make it through the +60 pages then you'll stop bitching http://www.superfuture.com/supertalk...d.php?t=149004
     
  15. kylelovesyou

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    He makes every pair on his own, is it really that difficult to understand?

    This link shows the whole process how a good jean is made, if you make it through the +60 pages then you'll stop bitching
    http://www.superfuture.com/supertalk...d.php?t=149004


    I understand perfectly. But "entirely by hand" is not "rethinking everything."
     
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    lol @ people criticizing marketing copy, what do you want him to say?
     
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    To be fair, as an advertising copywriter, I have done fairly large campaigns using the phrase "rethink everything" as part of the copy. So I'm guilty of what I'm criticizing.
     
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    He makes every pair on his own, is it really that difficult to understand? This link shows the whole process how a good jean is made, if you make it through the +60 pages then you'll stop bitching http://www.superfuture.com/supertalk...d.php?t=149004
    right, im aware of that, so no, its not hard to understand. but "rethinking everything" is a truly conclusive statement and i was simply wondering if it was only because he is limiting production or if he is doing something truly original. i think roy even said in the video clip "success means more machines," so maybe it wont be long before he can buy machines that will allow him to produce more. but my point is it doesnt seem like he is doing something unique in the jean making process (aside from low production), at least from what i can tell, to justify a price increase aside from what has already been mentioned, i.e., new patch, hardware, or a different/modified cut. if you think about it, just several months ago his pricing was such his competition was apc or left field, but now, he is competing (price wise) on a whole new level with several well established japanese denim companies, so i was just trying to figure out if he was doing something they were not. but they look good and it will be interesting to see the response.
     
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    lol @ people criticizing marketing copy, what do you want him to say?

    lol @ people criticizing people criticizing marketing copy.

    I don't know. I guess I would like it to be written intelligently? But I guess that is asking a lot of marketing people.
     
  20. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member

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    This thread is making me rethink everything I know about Styleforum. Everything, I tell you. Everything!
     

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