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You know what I admire about the English? You guys headbutt in fights.
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You know what I admire about the English? You guys headbutt in fights.

A specifically Scottish phenomenon!
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Well there was full employment and things were getting better. 'You've never had it so good' as MacMillan pointed out.

You could still walk through Harlesden at night without getting mugged. Some skinheads looked for 'aggro'. Others saw it more as a fashion/music thing. Guns and knives were not commonplace.

I suppose it depended on where you came from and the socio-economic background you were born into.

Was Harlesdon where you lived then? I understand it had quite a large West Indian population, did that influence you as regards fashion and music? From what I can gather, Reggae was never as popular in the North.
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would you guys have been rival mobs back then? If you saw skinheads in your area that you didnt know what would the reaction have been...would the initial tone be welcoming like "hey you guys are skins, good to meet you", or "hey you guys are skins, you the fuck are you". I'm guessing that since so many kids were skinheads in the working class neighborhoods that the tone would be menacing at first...?

I sort of agree with MoM, The reputation Kilburn had back then, no one would dare come into the area firm handed, But at the same time Skinheads from surrounding areas that had smaller gangs would often turn up at the Phoenix Youth club, If they wanted to join us... we welcomed them, Like we had a alliance with a big crew from Hendon, Once these friendships was established we would be fiercely loyal.
Only this really happens with teenagers between 13 and around 17, all you cared about was each other, even Mums and Dads was put on the back burner a little.

Yes as you say MoM some places were neutral, North of the River was the Tottenham Royal this was the mecca for skinheads, The Lyceum , and the Top Rank Watford, we did not go into the West End much, full of drugs and Hippies back then. Also neutral was Football, At Chelsea their would be some gangs that you did not like, But you was united for the bigger cause.

As i have said we could be violent fcukers, but it was the friendships made that was more important to us. We also had rules, Like if a Skinhead from another area who was up for a kicking turned up at one of our discos and he had a Girl with him , he would be left alone, No one would touch a couple. their was always another day for him.
Happy Days
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I suppose it depended on where you came from and the socio-economic background you were born into. Was Harlesdon where you lived then? I understand it had quite a large West Indian population, did that influence you as regards fashion and music? From what I can gather, Reggae was never as popular in the North.
Yes Harlesden had a big West indian Population, They also had a fairly big Mob, They would be half friendly with the Willesden mob, the areas cross over each other, Same with Kilburn their was a West Indian mob here also, and was half friendly towards us, The reason is We all went to school with each other, Grew up with each other. But now and again we would have a fall out, but thats another story. Just to add yes their was fashion influence between the West Indians and White Skinheads, I always thought they copied us, but when you read these so called expert on Skinhead history they tell us different. In saying that my mates Cousin was the smartest Rudie i ever saw, And he Influenced me.
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Thanks All, MOM, lasttye, queenie, get smart, South london Gent etc.. Really look forward to getting home and reading all your posts, much better than the poxy telly. That's me sorted then - beer, bit of airfix (don't ask) and this thread, thanks again and keep it up. Bunty
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toyed with going to that show, but "Blitz" with only Nidge in the band didnt really appeal to me. Too bad about his sudden death tho.

Iron Cross played Pomona??? (I'm assuming Glass House or Fox Theatre)....I must have been asleep when that happened, never knew they played...but then I have the same feeling about Iron Cross in 2010 as I do Blitz....

Tell me about it. I can count at least three friends my age (late 30s) who have played in that band since it's first reunion back in 98/99 (which my old band was the opening act!), only one of which (Kent Stax) was around in the early days. He, at least, filled in for Dante on a few occasions back then.

I know they just played in AZ and are playing here in Baltimore next month. I will most likely skip that one
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How common was the use of Amphetamine in the skinhead scene? I know mods did them and an original has told me that skinheads did it too(along with a few tokes here and there).
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How common was the use of Amphetamine in the skinhead scene? I know mods did them and an original has told me that skinheads did it too(along with a few tokes here and there).

Very commonly used in the soul clubs of the North that were frequented by Skinheads, so yes in the North - can't say about the South. I believe Lasttye has said him and his mates didn't. If by the last bit you mean Marijuana - I'd say not, it's a hippy drug.
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How common was the use of Amphetamine in the skinhead scene? I know mods did them and an original has told me that skinheads did it too(along with a few tokes here and there).

Amphetamines , Purple Hearts , was taken widespread by Mods, they could be got on prescription off the Doctor in the Mid 60s, In the end they banned them off the Doc, everyone was on them , Mods Uncles Aunts, even some Mums and Dads lol.

They say that Skinheads rejected drugs, to be honest never saw any taken, or even talked about, It sort of scared us, We would look at hippies with disgust.

By around 74 I did notice some now long haired ex Skinheads taking stuff, Me i have never taken drugs, Beer is bad enough for me.
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Originally Posted by Lasttye View Post
I think girls today are just as good looking, skinhead girls on the present day scene tend to be older.
One thing in my 60s skinhead girls looked more feminine.

You've mentioned Tina from Wolverhampton a couple of times, apart from the boots and braces was her looks still feminine, I mean like she didn't sport a boys haircut? And I think you mentioned her being in the frontlines when things kicked off? Would the opposing kids act like gents and not touch Tina at all during the rumble, even if she did fought against them?
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You've mentioned Tina from Wolverhampton a couple of times, apart from the boots and braces was her looks still feminine, I mean like she didn't sport a boys haircut? And I think you mentioned her being in the frontlines when things kicked off? Would the opposing kids act like gents and not touch Tina at all during the rumble, even if she did fought against them?
As it happens I was gonna mention Tina from Wolverhampton, I intend to write on here about Skinhead Boy Girl relationships back in the 6Os. As you have asked i will tell the story, Tina was a Wolverhampton/Chelsea supporter, The fist time i saw her was 69/70 season.. we went into this pub, in Wolverhampton, and she was standing there with about 20 others, She was one of the most beautiful Skinhead girls i ever saw, Tall Blond blue eyed. She was wearing Boots, Braces check shirt and Jeans, I had never seen this up until then, But she still looked feminine, this was down to a great body, nice arse in jeans. We started chatting she knew all about us Kilburn lot, After that she would come down to London with half a dozen of her gang Boys and Girls, they would stay over, and come out saturday night, This went on for a couple of seasons, last time i saw her was around 72/73?? This girl was a legend, She would get stuck in when it kicked off, never saw her get hurt, Someone said on UK Skinheads... I think.. that she got a hiding down at Bristol.? with Wolves, dont know about that.. as no one had ever heard of her these days until i brought her name up. I am going back over 40 years. So her name was lost in time, I think a lot of us was in Awe of her, A couple of years ago some bloke emailed me, and said he was going to dedicate a couple of pages in a book about her, he was writing. I often wonder where the famous Tina went to, she would be around 57 now.
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Amphetamines , Purple Hearts , was taken widespread by Mods, they could be got on prescription off the Doctor in the Mid 60s, In the end they banned them off the Doc, everyone was on them , Mods Uncles Aunts, even some Mums and Dads lol. They say that Skinheads rejected drugs, to be honest never saw any taken, or even talked about, It sort of scared us, We would look at hippies with disgust. By around 74 I did notice some now long haired ex Skinheads taking stuff, Me i have never taken drugs, Beer is bad enough for me.
Quite a lot of 80's skinheads got into a drug called Tuinal. You had only to walk through Leicester Square of a Saturday afternoon/evening to skins off their nut on barbs or glue... I avoided Leicester Square when i was a young skinhead.
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I remember when i first got into the scene at 17..it seems like they always had to give you a hard time when you were a newcomer, but after that (and since i was young) they took care of me like family.
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How common was the use of Amphetamine in the skinhead scene? I know mods did them and an original has told me that skinheads did it too(along with a few tokes here and there).

There was a bit of it around, but not to the extent as there had been when I had been 'Up North'
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