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buttons said:

Ha ha - come on MoM, Roy's no spring chicken and its doing his image no harm at all!

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He's younger than me!



buttons said:

Ha ha - come on MoM, Roy's no spring chicken and its doing his image no harm at all!

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Man-of-Mystery said:

He's younger than me!

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Not far behind you MoM, As it happens Cardigans are popular with all ages these days.



Lasttye said:

Not far behind you MoM, As it happens Cardigans are popular with all ages these days.

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No offence, but I just wouldn't feel right in one.

M-o-M



Get Smart said:

here's an old pic I have never seen til now, wonder if anyone had any info about when it's from, where, etc?

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Northerner's, just by the miss match of clothing they are wearing, Because Northerners was behind London it is hard to date this pic would say ...73/74, To me this is way after the skinheads when Teenage fashion was a embarrassment. and to be honest best forgotten,

McDermott said:

Heres what you be wanting Lads

come with crappy leather-lookalike plastic buttons, change them for the real deal and its spot on. I find keeping an eye on cricket style jumpers sometimes comes up trumps on ebay (bought a pure white one thats spot on just needs pearl buttons changing to leather ones) but these are the best ive found by a mile :
Black :http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mans-Blac...&otn=4&po=LVI&ps=63&clkid=5497057393442775682
Burgandy : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mans-Burg...s_Tops_Casual_Shirts&var=&hash=item99adb27aaf
and the only place i could find the green was 80'sfootballcausals : http://www.80scasualclassics.co.uk/...an-in-classic-green-2105973-239064-703659.php
who also stock the crewneck style that seemed to be popular with 80's skins : http://www.80scasualclassics.co.uk/knitwear/waffle-jumper-in-classic-grey-2105965-239064-703655.php they have that in burgundy also.

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Welcome to the board BTW.

Nice find them cardie's. I'm guessing you have one yourself? what is the fit like? are they true to size e.g. would a size 42" come up as a true size 42" (also are the ones on '80's casuals' the same brand as the e-bay ones, cause the ones on '80's casuals' come up a lot smaller?)
I'm considering the burgundy one, quite a difficult item to get hold of. A chunky Burgundy cardie with old skool footie buttons.
The 100% acrylic doesn't bother me, as I don't smoke ha ha.

THis is my fave cardie at the moment, I wear it a lot. A Fred Perry lambswool made in Scotland.

soundsnpressure said:

Welcome to the board BTW.

Nice find them cardie's. I'm guessing you have one yourself? what is the fit like? are they true to size e.g. would a size 42" come up as a true size 42" (also are the ones on '80's casuals' the same brand as the e-bay ones, cause the ones on '80's casuals' come up a lot smaller?)
I'm considering the burgundy one, quite a difficult item to get hold of. A chunky Burgundy cardie with old skool footie buttons.
The 100% acrylic doesn't bother me, as I don't smoke ha ha.

THis is my fave cardie at the moment, I where it quite a lot. A Fred Perry lambswool made in Scotland.

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Thanks, and nice FP cardie, i like that alot. they did a shawl collared one similar a while ago that was smart too.
I have the burgandy, size L, and the pit to pit is 23'', so bearing in mind that they are stretchy too, id say that was quite big sizing. Id say go by what you usually are (M,L,Xl etc) if you want a slightly baggier version (like you see popular with 80s skins) and a size down if you want more fitted. im a 42 and the L fits me nicely (little baggy, fair bit of room but very oldschool looking). the 80scausal ones are the same yes, i dont know why the sizing varies..id go by what i said above ^

something i dont think weve disscussed before...favourite tracks ? genre of music ? Do you originals still listen to alot of ska reggae motown etc ?
Reason i asked is because im sure Roy has said before on here that music (ska/reggae in particular) were not as key to the scene as on the modern one. At my last place of work, a traditional mens gentry clothing shop that mostly was known for suits, there was a guy in his 60's who worked there and could remember being an original skinhead (he spotted me as a skinhead day 1 i suppose the polished brogues, club stripe tie, crombie etc was a giveaway..ha !). when i asked him about music he shrugged and said he could remember being and getting into rod stewart (!) big time later on but that early he can remember a bit of reggae but it was not 'key'. He did remember double barrel when i played him it on my ipod though
other things he talked about : him and his mate getting done over at a football game because he had a stickpinned hank in his crombie in his teams colours (he was insisting i remove my red one and put in a team colour one like in the old days), older items..ruperts and jungle greens came up etc...quite an interesting guy maybe when i see him next ill do a mini interview.

Lasttye said:

Northerner's, just by the miss match of clothing they are wearing, Because Northerners was behind London it is hard to date this pic would say ...73/74, To me this is way after the skinheads when Teenage fashion was a embarrassment. and to be honest best forgotten,

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cant be northeners no star jumpers



Man-of-Mystery said:

Whereabouts was that taken, John? Anywhere near the Biennale?

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Hi Paul

That was taken near the public gardens on the Sestiere Castello. I recall Biennale is closer to San Marco?

I want to go back soon!

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something i dont think weve disscussed before...favourite tracks ? genre of music ? Do you originals still listen to alot of ska reggae motown etc ?
Reason i asked is because im sure Roy has said before on here that music (ska/reggae in particular) were not as key to the scene as on the modern one. At my last place of work, a traditional mens gentry clothing shop that mostly was known for suits, there was a guy in his 60's who worked there and could remember being an original skinhead (he spotted me as a skinhead day 1 i suppose the polished brogues, club stripe tie, crombie etc was a giveaway..ha !). when i asked him about music he shrugged and said he could remember being and getting into rod stewart (!) big time later on but that early he can remember a bit of reggae but it was not 'key'. He did remember double barrel when i played him it on my ipod though
other things he talked about : him and his mate getting done over at a football game because he had a stickpinned hank in his crombie in his teams colours (he was insisting i remove my red one and put in a team colour one like in the old days), older items..ruperts and jungle greens came up etc...quite an interesting guy maybe when i see him next ill do a mini interview.


 

I don't listen to reggae much, maybe if i am going to skinhead doo.. i may put some on to get me into the mood, still love Motown, yes Rod Stewart was massive for the then growing out skinheads ,


Next time you see that Original Skinhead mention this thread maybe he could put some stuff up on here of his experiences,



Brideshead said:

Hi Paul
That was taken near the public gardens on the Sestiere Castello. I recall Biennale is closer to San Marco?
I want to go back soon!

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My fault. I meant to say Giardini Publici - where all the pine trees are.



Excuse me and John for hi-jacking the thread...

Yes, I want to go back too. Old-timers SKINHEAD INVASION!

Photo and text posted on 'The Mod Generation' website by Charles Murphy



'The cool dude with the square shades on is our Fitzy's big brother Edward, this one of the photos from the legendary "Frankie Vaughan And The Easterhouse Gangs" video in '68. They were called "The West Rebels" A cracking photo.'

[VIDEOhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=HdeKrF4vINc][/VIDEO]



bunty said:

Photo and text posted on 'The Mod Generation' website by Charles Murphy

'The cool dude with the square shades on is our Fitzy's big brother Edward, this one of the photos from the legendary "Frankie Vaughan And The Easterhouse Gangs" video in '68. They were called "The West Rebels" A cracking photo.'
[VIDEOhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=HdeKrF4vINc][/VIDEO]

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Interesting pic, Bunty. The guy on the extreme left shows exactly how ties were knotted in my (uh) neck of the woods* too in '68. I had a pair of those bloody silly square shades in '67 before adopting my signature aviators. The other guy in shades shows the 'mod' take on turn-ups.

These guys are typical of the lads who used to come down from Glasgow to Blackpool for 'Glasgow Fortnight'.


*By 'my neck of the woods' in that context I mean S E London. Back in Blackpool, where I had just left, ties were worn with quite a big knot, but fastened right up to the neck.

We could have next bash in Venice, but I didn't even make it to York.......



Man-of-Mystery said:

Interesting pic, Bunty. The guy on the extreme left shows exactly how ties were knotted in my (uh) neck of the woods* too in '68. I had a pair of those bloody silly square shades in '67 before adopting my signature aviators. The other guy in shades shows the 'mod' take on turn-ups.
These guys are typical of the lads who used to come down from Glasgow to Blackpool for 'Glasgow Fortnight'.
*By 'my neck of the woods' in that context I mean S E London. Back in Blackpool, where I had just left, ties were worn with quite a big knot, but fastened right up to the neck.

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Again it shows how loose fitting the knitwear was back then. Our take on the 60s now demands a much slimmer silhouette which, at my age I try to resist!

Would do Roy, But i think the internet is a bit of a no-go for him...ill ask him and see