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TS, do you really want to start another of your stupid flamewars... over GAME consoles?Originally Posted by Brian SD
This isn't a flamewar unless you want to make it one, I'm correcting your inaccurate statement that the PS3 is a "*************". You said it not me. Also, your inaccurate statement that PS3 sales are "really, really lagging". I understand your frustration at the lack of games, but historically, this is how consoles start out. "Next-gen" consoles generally have very few great games in the first year. Especially technology leading consoles like the PS3. The PS2 didn't have many good games the first year, The Xbox 360 didn't either. In fact, as I've pointed out time and time again, the PS3 and 360 have sold nearly the exact same amount of consoles in the same time frame. So the whole "lack of games" thing is really a non-issue.
No, you just said it was a ************* in general.
A: The cross-platform argument is a good one, for right now. But as I keep telling you, its a temporary situation. The cross platform games you are seeing out now for the PS3 were programmed by people who had never worked with the system before and had to build graphics engines from scratch when they weren't really that familiar with the hardware. Sony has since remedied much of this situation by having hands on developer training, making available 3rd party graphics engines, and reaching out in every way conceivably possible to make it easier for people to design for the PS3. The PS3 isn't, despite what you have heard, immensely difficult to program for given the right tools. Sony didn't seem to have a significant problem with the PS2 after the first year, even though that was comparably much more difficult to program initially than the PS3 is today. B: It's exclusive lineup isn't as good? I guess thats purely a matter of taste. The only thing I want to play on the 360 is Bioshock, and after playing it on the 360 last week, I'm positive I'd like it better on PC. GoW is pretty good, but I think there's a good chance that at least one of the 8 FPS exclusives for the PS3 next year will be at least as good, if not better. None of the other "exclusives" are remotely attractive to me. C: Over designed, bloated hardware? Wow. That is truly a unique viewpoint. I prefer not to criticize a machine for being on the cutting edge of consumer entertainment technology while (at least for the moment) fulfilling its promises to be backwards compatible with its legacy systems. D: A Blu-Ray trojan horse? Well... it's working isn't it? Can't blame them for trying, also - It's a better format.
What? I have no idea what I'm talking about? WTF are you talking about? You just got done telling everyone that the Xbox 360 is getting all the programmers to jump off the PS3 because the 360 is outselling it! Now, when I tell you that the PS3 has been outselling the 360 for a month, that its sales are almost exactly what the 360's sales have been during the same launch period, and that programmers who are leaving because of "lagging" sales must be insane, because the sales figures for the 360 are consistantly, depressingly down, while the PS3 is still uptrending... you don't care about sales? YOU BROUGHT IT UP. I was just pointing out that in doing so, you made the mistake of listening to people who don't know what they are talking about and are giving you incorrect information.
Your only valid point so far, my bad. I'm not sure why sales spiked, Christmas? Anyways, the PS3 is on par to meet that spike either at or shortly after week 55.
PS3's are not anguishing on store shelves" any more than 360's were at the same time in its launch cycle, and the 360 is losing ground to it on a weekly basis. The corner has been turned, the PS3 is currently outselling the 360, and I don't see how that is "lagging". You really have to pick an argument here. Either the sales matter, or they don't. You just said that it makes sense that the PS3 would be outselling the 360 (it is) and now you are saying that the PS3's are not selling. (they are). The Wii is an aberration brought about by its relatively low price, uniqueness, and exclusivity. I don't believe that there has been a console in history that has sold so much so fast. Historically speaking, consoles are slow starters, the PS2 was no exception.
And yet you get your information from what can only be biased fanboy sites, a tenuous grasp of the relavent sales figures, and your opinions reek of a Xbox bias. Sorry for calling you on it.What differs between your fanboyism and mine is that I'm not actually a fanboy, I'm just stating my opinion on the consoles, but I should have expected you to flip out over it. I'm simply saying that PS3, as it is right now, and probably for another year, sucks **** and isn't worth the money, except if you want the BluRay player as it's still a relatively cheap option in that regard. I might get one later on when it has good games on it.
Sony's arrogant attitude prior and during the release? Like what? Delivering on most of the important parts of what they had promised to create in the PS3, placing it at the exact price that they said they would, and released it as a cohesive - operable single unit (no tacky add-ons), delivering enough of them to satisfy consumer demand, and putting out a console with very good build quality and relatively few problems? I don't really understand what you are talking about.
The 360 will probably have the better games for the next six months to a year... yeah, ok. I'm going to tenuously agree with that. Until the end of the second year, the Xbox will have MORE "must have" hardcore games than the PS3. But if I'm not mistaken the OP wasn't asking about buying a gaming console with the sole or even primary intention of using it for gaming. He was asking about it to primarily play Hi-Def movies and maybe play one or two games occasionally. I'm not sure why you felt like chiming in with your defamatory and erroneous post to begin with, I am just compelled to argue certain things, you know this, and yet you get all butt-hurt when I call you on your almost completely irrelevant thread derailing post full of incorrect information and contradictory statements. Regardless of your statements that you have no stake in the console v.s. console battle, its pretty clear from your statements that you do. I like the X360 just fine. In fact, I have been saving up for one for the past six months or so. Its a nice machine, It has some games that I think are worth playing... I just would rather spend my money on quality hardware than base my decision on what has more/better games, a console that has been out for 9 months, or a console that has been out for almost two years when I know what is on the immediate horizon is going to be worth the short wait. Anyways, to answer the OP's question AGAIN. In my opinion, the PS3 has the clear advantage in the media arena. For the reasons I posted before Brian came in and took a dump on your thread. The PS3 has built-in hi-def, no add ons. More of the movies that I care about are on Blu-Ray, more retailers are either scaling back HD-DVD or dropping it altogether. Many rental places are signing exclusive Blu-Ray contracts, etc. The PS3 just makes more sense to me.
