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(offshore observer @ 20 July 2004, 02:13)
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Originally Posted by imageWIS,19 July 2004, 8:46
And yup, it turned into another one of those threads. Regarding the "˜Kid' remark, I already know how certain members of TZ treat people whom they think they are superior to, strictly because of their age. My friend (personal friend of mine, which ironically enough, I met through TZ), used to moderate the Breitling forum on TZ, and he was kicked off because of his age (he is 2 years younger than I). I already have a full-formed idea of how TZ's moderators and certain members deal with people whom are not up to their age "˜standards'. Your judgment and bias towards age is despicable.
Jon I don't believe eRIC was kicked off TZ because of his age. That he was young, I don't think was any great secret. Heck, I knew he was very young, and I not one of the moderators there. I recall the debacle when he did leave though, it had to do with the provenance of a watch he was selling. As for William, I believe he was only asking if you could refer him to the thread on TZ which dissed that dealer, since you said go check TZ out yourself if you didn't believe it. Given TZ policies and being the Patek moderator, are you surprised he asked you to point him to it? I'm not. Finally, he is, of course, free to pick up and comment on any thread he chooses. There's no obligation on him to respond to a thread dissing Jantzen or K-Mart or Wal-Mart or whatever. Are you suggesting he should? I imagine he does have a life.
How old was this Eric?
His age is unimportant; that's my whole point. Jon.
post #32 of 49
"I don't believe eRIC was kicked off TZ because of his age. That he was young, I don't think was any great secret. Heck, I knew he was very young, and I not one of the moderators there. I recall the debacle when he did leave though, it had to do with the provenance of a watch he was selling. As for William, I believe he was only asking if you could refer him to the thread on TZ which dissed that dealer, since you said go check TZ out yourself if you didn't believe it. Given TZ policies and being the Patek moderator, are you surprised he asked you to point him to it? I'm not. Finally, he is, of course, free to pick up and comment on any thread he chooses. There's no obligation on him to respond to a thread dissing Jantzen or K-Mart or Wal-Mart or whatever. Are you suggesting he should? I imagine he does have a life." offshore observer, He was kicked off because of his age, period. Whatever other rumor you might have heard is exactly that; obviously excuses made by TZ's previous owners are inconsequential when discussing the truth of what occurred. "Finally, he is, of course, free to pick up and comment on any thread he chooses. There's no obligation on him to respond to a thread dissing Jantzen or K-Mart or Wal-Mart or whatever. Are you suggesting he should? I imagine he does have a life." You missed the point, he said: "Albert, the owner of European Wach has a very good reputation, and I am always at loss when I see an unfounded comment affect somebody business and reputation." To which I responded: "Interestingly enough, I have yet to see you protest when someone complains about Jantzen, for whatever reason, since you are so concerned about a comment that can affect somebody's business and reputation." Upon which he quipped in return: "I have been a watch collector for nearly 20 years, I do specialize in Patek and Rolex, I am a member of the NAWCC, IWJG, BHS and WTA. Albert of European watch co is also a member of these organisations. I do not base accusations on "friends in Boston" or "lost" threads on another forum but on facts." Than I said: "Being a member of an organization hardly makes you a good or decent businessperson does it not? I am sure that a lot of companies are members of the BBB, but how many of them have taken advantage of their customers in the past and will continue to do so?" Is the hypocrisy on Williams's part easier to see now? (You know for being the Master Horologist, he seems to be unable to properly spell the word "˜watch', but that's beside the point) Jon.
post #33 of 49
I have regularly visited TZ since 1996, and I do not recall ever seeing a negative post or thread regarding European Watch. This is something I surely would have noticed and recalled as I keep a close eye on which dealers to buy from since I am always buying. I DO recall the brouhaha with Eric and it had nothing to do with his age. Rather, the issue involved the very high standard of business ethics expected of the TZ moderators, and there was some concern whether he measured up.
post #34 of 49
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I have regularly visited TZ since 1996, and I do not recall ever seeing a negative post or thread regarding European Watch. This is something I surely would have noticed and recalled as I keep a close eye on which dealers to buy from since I am always buying. I DO recall the brouhaha with Eric and it had nothing to do with his age. Rather, the issue involved the very high standard of business ethics expected of the TZ moderators, and there was some concern whether he measured up.
Right. Now, tell me how you were privy towards all this inside info? And, there have been TZ forum moderators that have sold watches (personal watches) on TZ before. The only thing TZ was measuring regarding Eric was his eight, and apparently he was too short (at the time) to go on the ride. How were you able to read every post on TZ since 1996? Jon.
post #35 of 49
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Right. Now, tell me how you were privy towards all this inside info? And, there have been TZ forum moderators that have sold watches (personal watches) on TZ before.
The same way you're privy to all the inside info, I guess. Let's not forget, there are always two sides to every story.     TZ moderators do, from time to time, sell their own watches on TZ.  That's not the point; there's never been any rule against that.
post #36 of 49
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(imageWIS @ 20 July 2004, 07:42) Right. Now, tell me how you were privy towards all this inside info? And, there have been TZ forum moderators that have sold watches (personal watches) on TZ before.
The same way you're privy to all the inside info, I guess.
So, your also a good friend of Eric? Jon.
post #37 of 49
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(offshore observer @ 20 July 2004, 11:12)
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Originally Posted by imageWIS,20 July 2004, 07:42
Right. Now, tell me how you were privy towards all this inside info? And, there have been TZ forum moderators that have sold watches (personal watches) on TZ before.
The same way you're privy to all the inside info, I guess.
So, your also a good friend of Eric? Jon.
So it is not just me, you are up for a fight with anyone.
post #38 of 49
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Originally Posted by imageWIS,20 July 2004, 5:19
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Originally Posted by offshore observer,20 July 2004, 11:12
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Originally Posted by imageWIS,20 July 2004, 07:42
Right. Now, tell me how you were privy towards all this inside info? And, there have been TZ forum moderators that have sold watches (personal watches) on TZ before.
The same way you're privy to all the inside info, I guess.
So, your also a good friend of Eric? Jon.
So it is not just me, you are up for a fight with anyone.
Again with the term "˜fight'. This is a difference of opinion. Titans of industry understand this... Plus, you are the provocateur extraordinaire on this forum. Jon.
post #39 of 49
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(kalra2411 @ 20 July 2004, 12:24)
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Originally Posted by imageWIS,20 July 2004, 5:19
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Originally Posted by offshore observer,20 July 2004, 11:12
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Originally Posted by imageWIS,20 July 2004, 07:42
Right. Now, tell me how you were privy towards all this inside info? And, there have been TZ forum moderators that have sold watches (personal watches) on TZ before.
The same way you're privy to all the inside info, I guess.
So, your also a good friend of Eric? Jon.
So it is not just me, you are up for a fight with anyone.
Again with the term "˜fight'. This is a difference of opinion. Titans of industry understand this... Jon.
Let us not start someting again, your tone was very arrogant, but then again who I am to say, I am not invloved with this.
post #40 of 49
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(kalra2411 @ 20 July 2004, 12:24)
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Originally Posted by imageWIS,20 July 2004, 5:19
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Originally Posted by offshore observer,20 July 2004, 11:12
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Originally Posted by imageWIS,20 July 2004, 07:42
Right. Now, tell me how you were privy towards all this inside info? And, there have been TZ forum moderators that have sold watches (personal watches) on TZ before.
The same way you're privy to all the inside info, I guess.
So, your also a good friend of Eric? Jon.
So it is not just me, you are up for a fight with anyone.
Again with the term "˜fight'. This is a difference of opinion. Titans of industry understand this... Plus, you are the provocateur extraordinaire on this forum.   Jon.
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Titans of industry understand this...
No, sorry, the stereotypical American, who always yells, carrys a gun, drinks beer, and argues with anyone of the street would understand the obscure theory you just put forward. Whereas, the rest of the world, and also most people on this forum, who in know way follow the American stereotype would realise that it is common decency to keep contrivertial views to ones self.
post #41 of 49
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Plus, you are the provocateur extraordinaire on this forum.
I will only argue back if sombody adopts an arrogant tone toward me, I have never started an argument, simply pursued if it was provoked by somone else.
post #42 of 49
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Plus, you are the provocateur extraordinaire on this forum.
I will only argue back if sombody adopts an arrogant tone toward me, I have never started an argument, simply pursued if it was provoked by somone else.
What are you talking about? You provoked me, by saying: "So it is not just me, you are up for a fight with anyone." Jon.
post #43 of 49
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So, your also a good friend of Eric? Jon.
Provoking an argument - I think so.
post #44 of 49
Finally, this watch thread is going to get a little interesting... Thanks Kalra, you never dissapoint. Now lets see some real grown up thread fighting...
post #45 of 49
I was reinforcing a point I previously made in a prior post in the thread. Read everything posted and then judge. Again, please follow point / counterpoint, pointless tangents do not reinforce a point, but rather obliterate whatever your were trying to demonstrate. Jon. Jon.
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