"I don't believe eRIC was kicked off TZ because of his age. That he was young, I don't think was any great secret. Heck, I knew he was very young, and I not one of the moderators there. I recall the debacle when he did leave though, it had to do with the provenance of a watch he was selling. As for William, I believe he was only asking if you could refer him to the thread on TZ which dissed that dealer, since you said go check TZ out yourself if you didn't believe it. Given TZ policies and being the Patek moderator, are you surprised he asked you to point him to it? I'm not. Finally, he is, of course, free to pick up and comment on any thread he chooses. There's no obligation on him to respond to a thread dissing Jantzen or K-Mart or Wal-Mart or whatever. Are you suggesting he should? I imagine he does have a life." offshore observer, He was kicked off because of his age, period. Whatever other rumor you might have heard is exactly that; obviously excuses made by TZ's previous owners are inconsequential when discussing the truth of what occurred. "Finally, he is, of course, free to pick up and comment on any thread he chooses. There's no obligation on him to respond to a thread dissing Jantzen or K-Mart or Wal-Mart or whatever. Are you suggesting he should? I imagine he does have a life." You missed the point, he said: "Albert, the owner of European Wach has a very good reputation, and I am always at loss when I see an unfounded comment affect somebody business and reputation." To which I responded: "Interestingly enough, I have yet to see you protest when someone complains about Jantzen, for whatever reason, since you are so concerned about a comment that can affect somebody's business and reputation." Upon which he quipped in return: "I have been a watch collector for nearly 20 years, I do specialize in Patek and Rolex, I am a member of the NAWCC, IWJG, BHS and WTA. Albert of European watch co is also a member of these organisations. I do not base accusations on "friends in Boston" or "lost" threads on another forum but on facts." Than I said: "Being a member of an organization hardly makes you a good or decent businessperson does it not? I am sure that a lot of companies are members of the BBB, but how many of them have taken advantage of their customers in the past and will continue to do so?" Is the hypocrisy on Williams's part easier to see now? (You know for being the Master Horologist, he seems to be unable to properly spell the word "˜watch', but that's beside the point) Jon.