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post #16 of 23
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Originally Posted by Eustace Tilley View Post

Backless sounds great in theory, but is really not that practical. Despite what the 'rules' say, it's often inevitable that the coat comes off over the course of the night. A backless vest looks poor by itself, with the wrinkled shirt bunched in the back. Frankly, a light ermazine in the back doesn't make the vest much hotter anyway.

You're not allowed to take your jacket off in formal hall or the majority of things for that matter unless a private event...and through my experience I'd definitely go backless if I had to do it all again. With your gown on the heat builds up - don't get a 1st in your first year then you don't have to bother with a bigger gown at formal hall afterward!
post #17 of 23
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Originally Posted by Ich_Dien View Post


You're not allowed to take your jacket off in formal hall or the majority of things for that matter unless a private event.

 

If he's spending a considerable sum of money, the intention should be to make the garment as versatile as possible. While formal halls at Oxford may frown upon the coat-less look, I imagine the OP would like to use his black-tie rig at private functions as well. A lined vest is far more versatile than the backless version.

 

While some may pooh-pooh the idea of ever discarding the coat (against the rules, poor manners etc.), in practical terms, it's inevitable (especially over the course of a long night / event).

post #18 of 23
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Originally Posted by Eustace Tilley View Post

A lined vest is far more versatile than the backless version.

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post #19 of 23
Thread Starter 

I have another question about the midnight/navy dinner suit. 


It has plastic buttons I want to replace with satin covered ones, but I can't find midnight/navy satin covered buttons.. does anyone know a place?

 

Or do you think black covered buttons would "pop" too much, I'm thinking it would... in which case I might have to send the dinner jacket back and order a black one!

post #20 of 23
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Originally Posted by charlie1234 View Post

Hello,

I am attending Oxford in the fall, and will be in need of a dinner jacket. I can't find one that I really like and was looking for your suggestions. I am staying in a small town in the United States for the summer and don't have access to try things on, and will have to buy online. I know my measurements and all, I have purchased suits, had suits made, etc... The problem I am having finding an OTR dinner jacket, there are very few that meet basic qualifications (single breasted, un-vented, slit pockets, pointed lapel or shawl collar, single button, midnight blue/black). 

I will need to wear the dinner jacket bi-weekly for some formal dinner parties... so I am nervous getting a fused jacket. I have a very good tailor, that makes beautiful bespoke dinner jackets, that will tailor/alter what I buy... I just couldn't afford his $3,000 bespoke start-price. My budget is under $1,500. 

This is the one I like the cut of best, http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/boss-black-sky-gala-trim-fit-wool-tuxedo-free-next-day-shipping/3261693?origin=category&contextualcategoryid=0&fashionColor=&resultback=417 Hugo Boss shawl collar. Unfortunately, HB tends to be poorly constructed, fused, etc.

I also think this one sounds nice... but I am not a fan of the very wide pointed lapels. I would prefer them to be a bit trimmer. http://www.ehaberdasher.com/servlet/the-15494/Benjamin-Sartorial-Tuxedo-cln--38S/Detail Does anyone have experience with Benjamin Sartorial suits, I am nervous of such an inexpensive canvassed dinner jacket.

Any help would be appreciated!

-Charlie

p.s. If you have a strong opinion on a pointed lapel or a shawl collar, and a reason, please post it. I can't decide which to get... many of the shawl collars are poorly cut, but when well cut I think look better. I am very fit, and have worked as a model... I presume I would look fine in either one, but would be happy to hear your opinion!

I've never cared for shawl myself. I prefer a peak lapel. Ralph Lauren black label makes a nice tux for about $2K as does Canali. I'm not sure if either is fused. Maybe you could get either on sale.
post #21 of 23
Wait until you get to Oxford. There will be shops to sell things students can afford.
post #22 of 23
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Originally Posted by charlie1234 View Post

I can't find midnight/navy satin covered buttons.. does anyone know a place?

I got mine on eBay.
post #23 of 23
Thread Starter 

I checked eBay, I haven't been able to find any. Any other ideas on navy satin buttons?

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