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post #76 of 93
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Alright, so now I have 5 schools I am going to apply to, 2 professors and my senior project supervisor ready to write recommendations, and some GRE study crap. It's pretty great that most schools waive application fees for vets. What up, plan b.

What are you going to study?

Nice time to use this:
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Originally Posted by thekunk07 View Post

i think you should keep overeducating yourself in the liberal arts until you're completely unemployable
post #77 of 93
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Originally Posted by why View Post

What are you going to study?
Nice time to use this:

 

Publishing satisfied.gif From what I understand they have good job placement.

post #78 of 93
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Publishing satisfied.gif From what I understand they have good job placement.

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post #79 of 93
Thread Starter 

Do you have something substantive to share?

post #80 of 93
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Originally Posted by EMartNJ View Post

Do you have something substantive to share?

I thought the emoticon summed it up. Here, I'll add:

Job placement in what industry doing what?

Why are you so dead-set on the publishing industry if you've never worked in it?

Why are you going to make the same mistake twice?

Do you honestly believe your current barrier to employment is education level, or do you think it's more likely a lack of experience? As a corollary, what do you think a higher degree in publishing will bring you in the job market and have you considered that such a degree might in fact leave you simultaneously 'overqualified' and underexperienced? I'll requote:
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Originally Posted by thekunk07 View Post

i think you should keep overeducating yourself in the liberal arts until you're completely unemployable
post #81 of 93
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Why are you going to make the same mistake twice?

 

I'm not going to answer your other questions because they've been answered before. Same mistake twice? So a MPS in publishing is just as useless as a BA in poli sci, you know this from what? Experience?

post #82 of 93
They haven't all been answered before. I'm just trying to get you to consider that getting a higher degree does not always improve job prospects and can actually worsen them, especially when the time involved is considered (i.e. it's often better in some industries to have two years of experience and the contacts that come along with them than to spend two years and a lot of money on a master's degree).

Again, what kind of 'job placement' and what qualifies as 'good'? It's a question you should actually research, because putting 60% of new grads to work at CopyMax isn't what I'd consider 'good'.

But it seems like you don't even want to consider advice, so I'll bow out.
post #83 of 93
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I'm not going to answer your other questions because they've been answered before. Same mistake twice? So a MPS in publishing is just as useless as a BA in poli sci, you know this from what? Experience?

Before you commit to publishing by pursuing a masters, make sure that you've done your due diligence on the field. What's the pay, what're the real prospects for jobs (don't trust the numbers the school gives you), what would you actually do in that job, etc. Too many people naively pursue graduate work without really figuring out exactly how it will benefit them.

You don't really have anything particular pushing you towards publishing over other arbitrary fields, so make sure that's really the best field to pursue. I don't know anything about publishing, but you really ought to know a whole lot about the benefits of that degree before you sign up to spend $XXX and several years on it.
post #84 of 93
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I'm not going to answer your other questions because they've been answered before. Same mistake twice? So a MPS in publishing is just as useless as a BA in poli sci, you know this from what? Experience?

You should actually seriously consider his questions as they are crucial. One doesnt have to be actually experienced in a field to consider or be aware of issues concerning it. Some further questions to consider:

What exactly do you want to do within the field? Maybe get an advanced degree in that position to keep your options open (like FInance or Accounting or whatever)? Not to mention, if you cannot find a job now, how would a Masters degree automatically help you get a job? What do you intend to do beyond studying to increase your marketability apart from adding a Masters to your resume?

Spend a lot of time actually researching the publishing industry (one question to answer is what kind of publishing are you interested in). There's a lot to suggest that it's not very healthy (read jobs are few and far between and there isn't a bright future). Before you actually commit to an advanced program, maybe you should reach out to people in the field and pick their brains about their experience (how they got there, their impressions and their thoughts on prospects 1-5 years from now).
post #85 of 93
There's nothing wrong, per se, with doing postgrad study, particular if it will help you to specialise in a particular field.

I do think that the above posts make some very good points, though, and that you should consider the issues that they raise.

Also, whilst doing your Masters, make sure that you get some work experience and make sure that you make the most of your networking opportunities, both amongst your peers and lecturers at university, and amongst industry people.

IMHO, the experience and networking will actually help you more than the Masters degree, but the Masters degree should (I hope) provide you with useful skills and, probably most importantly, help you get some industry experience and help with networking.
post #86 of 93
Dont' want to repeat other's advise, but everyone has provided pretty solid stuff.

Another thought is to the cost of the program. If you consider getting a job in the field and working for a couple years, most large companies have tuition reimbursement. For example my friend got a MBA while employed at Qualcomm

"Reimbursement of up to $10,125 per calendar year for costs of tuition, books, and parking for courses toward a graduate or post-graduate degree"

for a 2 or 3 year program that's 20-30k saved.

When I was at Google they did 12k annually.
post #87 of 93
Seems like you want to spend some more time at school and you've got money to pay for it, so that is probably what you should do.

I would suggest that you consider other liberal programs besides 'publishing' which whether it is useful or not, will probably not push you intellectually. There's a very good chance that degrees in publishing won't really be any better ticket to the jobs you want than an M.A. in a more academic field.
Edited by AldenPyle - 10/18/12 at 2:03am
post #88 of 93
OP,

what does your dad say about all this?


everytime I see a thread like this I think "if this were my son I'd take him out and beat the crap out of him"

but that's just me.
post #89 of 93
political science is pretty much the most stupid thing to study if you intend to have an career outside of academia, this speaking of my own experience I am extremely happy to have studies quite a lot of econ in addition to pol scis, I have two masters one in politics and on in international relations, but it is still the economics studies.that have tipped the scales when it has come to jobs,

When it comes to use in real life, private and espescially professionally all the politics studies have been of much more use than anything else, the tools for critical thinking, analysis and reasoning have by far over shadowed all other skills gaines from amy other studies.
post #90 of 93
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Originally Posted by 660 View Post

political science is pretty much the most stupid thing to study if you intend to have an career outside of academia, this speaking of my own experience I am extremely happy to have studies quite a lot of econ in addition to pol scis, I have two masters one in politics and on in international relations, but it is still the economics studies.that have tipped the scales when it has come to jobs,
When it comes to use in real life, private and espescially professionally all the politics studies have been of much more use than anything else, the tools for critical thinking, analysis and reasoning have by far over shadowed all other skills gaines from amy other studies.

One thing my politics studies hasnt helpedmwit is my ipad typing skills, thats fo sure shog[1].gif
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