How to identify Lobb Prestige & St Crepin? - Page 3

Absolutely. Tons of R Prestiges for sale. Thats the only way hoi polloi like me can afford Lobb Prestiges other than owners wishing to sell their old Prestiges.

You are right to query whether an R Prestige is really a Prestige just like whether a polar bear with brown fur is really a polar bear.
Hmm the mind boggles.

But my latest discovery throws a spanner in the works because we cannot identify Prestiges or St Crepin by bevelled soles anymore.
The only way is to do so by knowing their models, which can be difficult since as you have pointed out, some models are not commonly or well known or could not be found in their website.

Well, yes. But if one were to look at less than perfect pics off the net or to the uninitiated, one cant tell immediately whether the soles are bevelled or not.

The easiest way is by identifying the painted black soles like in NORE's pic. In fact, I have more than 1 R Prestige with such painted black soles and I was surprised Lobb didnt have a consistent approach in painting all Prestiges ' soles black. So, the best way is still to identify by the shoes model if the soles are not black.

Seems like Sausages doesn't know he got a Prestige. If he did, he would have priced it accordingly.

1. Have never seen a black sole Lobb before, other than those with rubber soles.

2. As for pricing of Prestige, I have managed to sell a Prestige at slightly higher pricing than non Prestiges.
Guess its a matter of marketing, marketing, marketing.

If a Prestige cost 1 to 2 grand brand new, the buyer may just fork out 100 to 200 more for it used.
Of course, things like museum finish do affect the final pricing.

BS is a bit odd. There are some sellers who let go of their Lobbs including Prestiges at low prices.
Some just put a high price like 700 to 1 grand and wait.

(1) Now I remember - I used to have a Lobb with black soles. But its a boat shoe with thick and hard black rubber soles.

(2) I beg to differ. I sold unused Lobbs, with shop wear compared to used Lobbs. Noticed a big discernible increase in bidding activity and easily 50 to 100 more than used Lobbs.

Any black 'labelled' shoe will fetch a good price.

Shoe trees are interesting. For some reason, people like wooden shoe trees with Lobb, EG, Corthay or Berluti metal plaques on them and would pay more for them than normal trees. So yes, if one were to include trees, one can get more for them since buyers can convince or rationalise to themselves to pay 50 plus more for them.

On this note, the prices of Lobb are off the charts now! Its a good time to sell your Lobbs if you got some nice ones and I managed to ride the crest of successful Lobb selling.

About a year ago, I managed to sell a Lobb for a paltry 200 and another, with less than 5 wears and almost no crease, for less than 300.
Now, I can get 400 to 500 for them easy and without trees.
There are plenty of interest from South Korea and Japan. Don't know why, but Lobb could be increasing their presence there and them folks think paying less than 1 grand for good and used Lobb is still cheaper than buying them new from the boutiques.

I think it used to be a loooonng time ago on BS when used shoes are dirt cheap.
Now, even the Vash goes for like 500 and more at times.

But there are always bargains to be found. Saw a Lobb recently which couldnt sell despite being less than 200. The seller couldnt sell probably due to the non descript picture and tepid description. Like I said, its all about the marketing!

Sir, thats certainly impressive.

I just use a gut feel as to whether I think the shoes are worth the price the seller is asking for looking at condition, finish etc.

I just looked at BS again as well and notice most shoes are now in the 500 and more region except for the Aldens etc.
To me, thats high since my Lobbs were all gone for 400 plus region and I did not make any loss selling them.

I personally would not pay 500 for a Lobb unless its Prestige or a kickass Lobb like sweet museum finish.

I did not even pay 800 for my Prestiges. Er, except for one Vintage model with trees. Kind of regret it as I got the exact pair in different finish with the same trees 6 months later for like half the price I paid.

Most of my Prestiges were bought at less than 800 like 700 brand new and I already feel the pinch and I even passed on Prestiges at maybe 400? because I have way too many brown shoes!
Edited by Jangofett - 1/5/12 at 6:26pm

Well, its pointless because many sellers just see what others priced their shoes at and follow suit. Some shoes will sell at a price point agreed privately between buyer and seller and we would be none the wiser of the actual selling price.

The more accurate barometer will be ebay's auction system, the odd bid rigging aside.

Like you, I used to monitor the prices of Lobbs. Prestiges and not RTW because that will be insane.
I notice that real St Crepins and what is stated as Prestiges can go for 700 upwards and even 1000 for St Crepins.
Of course there are some price aberations. So I relied on this for my theory that Lobb Prestiges can fetch more than RTW.