Crockett & Jones for Ralph Lauren Cordovan (Marlow, Darlton, Gifford, Garran, Lindrick, McCallum, Rh

BeSpiffington · Apr 16, 2013

gsgleason said:
I got my second attempt of Marlow Wingtips today. Unfortunately these make very unattractive fine creases in the vamp that I've never before seen in shell which makes me wonder if something is wrong.

I don't want to presume to ask an inappropriate question, but are you positive that you got the right size? How do they feel?

gsgleason · Apr 16, 2013

BeSpiffington said:
gsgleason said:

I got my second attempt of Marlow Wingtips today. Unfortunately these make very unattractive fine creases in the vamp that I've never before seen in shell which makes me wonder if something is wrong.

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I don't want to presume to ask an inappropriate question, but are you positive that you got the right size?

Spiff, I'm never sure of that. I'm between an 11.5D and a 12D on a brannock. These seem to fit well.

Why do you ask? What do you see that makes you suspect a sizing issue?

BeSpiffington · Apr 16, 2013

gsgleason said:
Spiff, I'm never sure of that. I'm between an 11.5D and a 12D on a brannock. These seem to fit well.

Why do you ask? What do you see that makes you suspect a sizing issue?

When I get a brand new pair of shells, and they look so beautiful when they come fresh out of the box, I get anxious about the size of the shoes while I'm looking at the brand new creases form. I use the Mac Method to break in my new shoes. That's just me though. I guess this is a long way of saying if they feel good wear the crap out of them. And, don't worry about the creases. Congratulations.

david3558 · Apr 16, 2013

Ugh some of you were right! The damn shell on my Marlows are dry... anyone successfully bring them back to life? Not sure what I should do, already did 3 coats of Venetian...

mediahound · Apr 16, 2013

david3558 said:
Ugh some of you were right! The damn shell on my Marlows are dry... anyone successfully bring them back to life? Not sure what I should do, already did 3 coats of Venetian...

I'm really not sure if it's actual dryness. Could it be more a build up of wax that just needs to be buffed?

david3558 · Apr 16, 2013

mediahound said:
I'm really not sure if it's actual dryness. Could it be more a build up of wax that just needs to be buffed?

Tristan - that's a good point. I've spent a ton of time buffing it which is weird. On a side note, I used a coffee filter (lol) to buff my shell Aldens and brought them to an insanely good shine.

mediahound · Apr 16, 2013

david3558 said:
Tristan - that's a good point. I've spent a ton of time buffing it which is weird. On a side note, I used a coffee filter (lol) to buff my shell Aldens and brought them to an insanely good shine.

Yeah, when shell is new, it takes a while for the waxes applied at the factory to come out. Wiping with a damp cloth, then brushing and wiping with a dry cloth (this is the 'Mac Method') should be all that you do for a while.

That's what I did and they began to look newer, over time.

AriGold · Apr 16, 2013

gsgleason said:
Spiff, I'm never sure of that. I'm between an 11.5D and a 12D on a brannock. These seem to fit well.

Why do you ask? What do you see that makes you suspect a sizing issue?

It looks like a counterfeit pair. Did you buy these BNIB from china and jones?

mediahound · Apr 16, 2013

Interesting-they closed the Ralph Lauren San Francisco downtown store. I wonder what happened?

gsgleason · Apr 16, 2013

AriGold said:
gsgleason said:

Spiff, I'm never sure of that. I'm between an 11.5D and a 12D on a brannock. These seem to fit well.

Why do you ask? What do you see that makes you suspect a sizing issue?

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It looks like a counterfeit pair. Did you buy these BNIB from china and jones?

I ordered from RL website using the recent 25% promotional sale.

I have decided that those fine wrinkles in the vamp are heinous and I am sending them for another pair. For that much for shoes, I expect perfection.

I have 3 pair of shells (AE stand, Alden LWB, Alden Indy) and none of them have ever made such a hideous fine crease such as these.

ReppTiePrepster · Apr 16, 2013

gsgleason said:
Quote:

I don't want to presume to ask an inappropriate question, but are you positive that you got the right size?

Click to expand...

Spiff, I'm never sure of that. I'm between an 11.5D and a 12D on a brannock. These seem to fit well.

Why do you ask? What do you see that makes you suspect a sizing issue?

Typically, unusual creasing like this indicates improper sizing (i.e. they may be too big). If there is too much room/space inside, it may create unsightly or atypical creases. However, it may also be that you have a defective shoe. What size did you go with? Best of luck to you...

gsgleason · Apr 17, 2013

ReppTiePrepster said:
gsgleason said:

BeSpiffington said:

Quote:

gsgleason said:

I got my second attempt of Marlow Wingtips today. Unfortunately these make very unattractive fine creases in the vamp that I've never before seen in shell which makes me wonder if something is wrong.

Click to expand...

I don't want to presume to ask an inappropriate question, but are you positive that you got the right size?

Click to expand...

Spiff, I'm never sure of that. I'm between an 11.5D and a 12D on a brannock. These seem to fit well.

Why do you ask? What do you see that makes you suspect a sizing issue?

Click to expand...

Typically, unusual creasing like this indicates improper sizing (i.e. they may be too big). If there is too much room/space inside, it may create unsightly or atypical creases. However, it may also be that you have a defective shoe. What size did you go with? Best of luck to you...

I went with 11.5D, same that I wear in AE last 5 shoes. They certainly weren't too big. I had a small amount of room in the toe box, but not much. It was a snug fit. Unfortunately the RL store near me doesn't stock these shoes to go try out.

Winston S. · Apr 17, 2013

gsgleason said:
I went with 11.5D, same that I wear in AE last 5 shoes. They certainly weren't too big. I had a small amount of room in the toe box, but not much. It was a snug fit. Unfortunately the RL store near me doesn't stock these shoes to go try out.

Are your 5 last shoes TTS or did you size down from TTS? I took my Marlow Wingtips half size down from TTS, but wear my 5 last AEs TTS.

alexSF · Apr 17, 2013

I've seen other (rare) cases of similar weird creasing in shell, I don't think they depends from fit but from the leather itself.
Ask for an exchange if possible.

Kwaker · Apr 17, 2013

gsgleason said:
I ordered from RL website using the recent 25% promotional sale.

I have decided that those fine wrinkles in the vamp are heinous and I am sending them for another pair. For that much for shoes, I expect perfection.

I have 3 pair of shells (AE stand, Alden LWB, Alden Indy) and none of them have ever made such a hideous fine crease such as these.

Wise decision on the exchange ... let us know how the next pair works out.

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