Ski Jacket

radix · Dec 7, 2006

Can someone recommend a good ski jacket? I have a pair of Boger pants, but their jackets are hard to find (and expensive!). Oh, and the jacket should satisfy the following three conditions:

1. Is insulated with real down.
2. Does not look puffy.
3. Has sleeve gaiters (internal rib-knit cuffs.)

dkzzzz · Dec 7, 2006

Why do you need down in your ski jacket? This is so 1975.
Best modern ski jackets are paper thin, windproof, waterrepellent and never insulated. Layering is the key.
Insulated jackets are never a good idea for skiing.

Patrick Bateman · Dec 7, 2006

Spring for the Bogner, and I'm not sure why you think their jackets are hard to find. Where I would save money, in terms of ski wear, would be on a lighter jacket for spring. For the winter, make sure your other layers are equally good quality, i.e. long underwear, fleeces, etc. And obviously never skimp on gloves.

Originally Posted by dkzzzz

Why do you need down in your ski jacket? This is so 1975.
Best modern ski jackets are paper thin, windproof, waterrepellent and never insulated. Layering is the key.
Insulated jackets are never a good idea for skiing.

Hmm, ever tried skiing Jackson Hole in a blizzard when the wind chill is 30 below or more? I think you're going to need more than a shell. Layering is fine but in sub-zero temperatures you're going to need more than fleece and silk turtlenecks.

gamelan · Dec 7, 2006

Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman

Hmm, ever tried skiing Jackson Hole in a blizzard when the wind chill is 30 below or more? I think you're going to need more than a shell. Layering is fine but in sub-zero temperatures you're going to need more than fleece and silk turtlenecks.

agreed. i was in Mammoth earlier this year skiing in whiteout conditions with a shell, down jacket, fleece sweater, and thermals and it was still cold as f*ck.

to the OP, not sure if you're going to find a down jacket that isn't puffy. with down insulation, you tend to want the loft (puffiness) that the down provides, which in turn traps the air that is warmed up through body heat.

but i'd check out the usual suspects, Patagonia, Arcteryx, Mountain Hardwear, The North Face, Cloudveil, and Marmot.

-Jeff

tattersall · Dec 8, 2006

Bogner is excellent, stylish and well insulated. Other makes that I've had good experience with are Couloir and Descente. Unless you're skiing in the springtime, you need an insulated coat - not down as it will get soaked.

radix · Dec 8, 2006

Come on guys! I live in Colorado, where it's usually dry, sunny and windstill. But it can be cold. So what better insulation is there than down? The problem is that North Face, Marmot etc. make puffy jackets that are too warm and not well made (crappy rubber or velcro cuffs, cheap lining etc.) and hence overpriced.

Where can I find Bogner or comparable quality?

charlief1975 · Dec 8, 2006

I would look into Bogner..if not, North Face works great too. May not be what the "cool kids" wear, but I wear a North Face when I go snowboarding. I got one of the tri-climates. You can remove the inner fleece, then the shell rocks...if it's cold just put it back together.

Patrick Bateman · Dec 8, 2006

Gorsuch, in Aspen:

http://www.gorsuchltd.com/CatalogItem.aspx?ID=3290

Depending on how much you ski and how hard you are on your ski gear, these can last 10-20 years easily.

Beckwith · Dec 8, 2006

Gorsuch tends to be on the higher end of prices for just about anything. There are several local places in the ski resorts that carry the Bogner, it has become somewhat more mainstream. An owner of a major ski store on the East Coast turned me onto DNA, which is Descente North America. Great, warm, functional jacket that will not break the wallet. They are easy to find.

demo5 · Dec 8, 2006

If you want to go expensive, there is nothing better than Loro Piana's Icer or Aspen jackets... waterproof cashmere.

dkzzzz · Dec 8, 2006

" If one looking for a real ski outerwear look into Marmot or Arcteryx.

Bogner makes fashion clothing not a sport clothing . It is primarily aimed at middle aged poseurs who sit at the base lodge at St. Anton and sip coco while wearing their bamboo helmets.

demo5 · Dec 8, 2006

Another one to check out, which is very god, is Skea. They make some very nice stuff.

tattersall · Dec 8, 2006

Originally Posted by dkzzzz

" If one looking for a real ski outerwear look into Marmot or Arcteryx.

Bogner makes fashion clothing not a sport clothing . It is primarily aimed at middle aged poseurs who sit at the base lodge at St. Anton and sip coco while wearing their bamboo helmets.

Not at all true: I think you'll find that Bogner now makes clothing that is technically the equal of some of the other makes mentioned here.

The vast number of skiers are out there for recreation, not necessarily sport - the apres-ski tradition is extremely pleasant...

It is also my humble duty to relay that there are few companies that make women look as nice as Bogner do on the ski hill.
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Patrick Bateman · Dec 9, 2006

Originally Posted by dkzzzz

Bogner makes fashion clothing not a sport clothing . It is primarily aimed at middle aged poseurs who sit at the base lodge at St. Anton and sip coco while wearing their bamboo helmets.

You sound like one of those boarders who is "super psyched" because he just used daddy's credit card to get a new Burton shell with a "sick" camo pattern.

The middle aged guy who wears Bogner is more likely to ski hard and then hit up The Little Nell, Matsuhisa, or Caribou with his trophy wife. Feel free to make fun of him for that while wearing your "paper thin," non-insulated jacket.

jmonroestyle · Dec 9, 2006

I love my Spyder jacket. I have been wearing it for years and it works just fine.

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