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Very nice shoes Ingevaldsson! Congratulations!
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Very nice shoes Ingevaldsson! Congratulations!

 

Thank you very much!

 

Shouldn't a pair of Bestettis look good between your amazing pairs from Saint Crispin's, Edward Green, G&G and others..? :nodding: 

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Love the cross between almond round and classic round.  Would love to explore working with Bestetti remotely for semi-bespoke.  After I received all my other current orders... :(

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Thank you very much!

Shouldn't a pair of Bestettis look good between your amazing pairs from Saint Crispin's, Edward Green, G&G and others..? nod%5B1%5D.gif 

They certainly would, and probably will smile.gif
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X-post: Snapped some photos of my recently acquired Noveceno Mavericks this evening, and thought I might as well go ahead and share. It's in indoor lightning, after some wear, and with more focus on details than the pics I posted last week, so something a bit new at least. I can tell you that they are definitely the most comfortable shoes I own, the break in period was about five minutes (and I have really sensitive feet), they fit like gloves, and are both stable and soft at the same time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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@j ingevaldsson

 

 

congratz on your purchase, novecento maverick is the nicest model from bestetti line, very classic with italian twist

btw i read on your blog, there is RTW goodyear in the future, did Mr. Bestetti told you when it's gonna be available?

 

i'm hoping for some comparation between bestetti novecento with your MTO meccariello for sure :smarmy:

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Any detailed close up pictures for the welt stitching, waist, pegging, and the joint between waist and heel?
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Curious...when did Bestetti start offering RTW Goodyear welted shoes?
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@j ingevaldsson


congratz on your purchase, novecento maverick is the nicest model from bestetti line, very classic with italian twist
btw i read on your blog, there is RTW goodyear in the future, did Mr. Bestetti told you when it's gonna be available?

i'm hoping for some comparation between bestetti novecento with your MTO meccariello for sure mwink%5B1%5D.gif

Thanks! He didn't say exactly, and don't think he know for sure himself when everything will be ready, but I'd say during the first half of next year.
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Curious...when did Bestetti start offering RTW Goodyear welted shoes?

See above. He hasn't started offering those yet, but he now has RTW and MTO Blake and MTO Goodyear (which is hand welted and so will the RTW be, but those Italians keep calling it Goodyear anyway) and the semi-bespoke line Novecento, which is made to the same standard as his bespoke shoes but with just modifications to existing lasts. It does include test shoes and everything though.

His RTW is essentially made when ordered as well though, it's just a couple of stores in South Korea and Tokyo who actually have Bestettis in stock.
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Any detailed close up pictures for the welt stitching, waist, pegging, and the joint between waist and heel?

Don't have the lense I took the photos above with me anymore, but can take some photos of that with my other (not that proper) lense this weekend.
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Thanks! He didn't say exactly, and don't think he know for sure himself when everything will be ready, but I'd say during the first half of next year.
MTO Goodyear (which is hand welted and so will the RTW be, but those Italians keep calling it Goodyear anyway)
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I wondered. Which is not Goodyear at all despite the misunderstanding and perhaps even wrong-headedness (IMO) of those who persist. And a good example of why using Traditional and correct terminology is important--ie. communication.

Thanks
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I wondered. Which is not Goodyear at all despite the misunderstanding and perhaps even wrong-headedness (IMO) of those who persist. And a good example of why using Traditional and correct terminology is important--ie. communication.

Thanks

Yeah exactly. It seems to be an Italian thing more or less, they are afaik the only one's doing it. But there pretty much everyone does it, Enzo Bonafe, Paolo Scafora, Bestetti, all hand welted RTW/MTO-shoes are called Goodyear welted. It's like the Goodyear word is so associated with quality there that they even prefer using it before hand welted. But for example Bestetti realise that it's only in Italy it works that way, cause every time he mentions Goodyear to others outside Italy he writes (hand welted) afterwards.
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Yeah exactly. It seems to be an Italian thing more or less, they are afaik the only one's doing it. But there pretty much everyone does it, Enzo Bonafe, Paolo Scafora, Bestetti, all hand welted RTW/MTO-shoes are called Goodyear welted. It's like the Goodyear word is so associated with quality there that they even prefer using it before hand welted. But for example Bestetti realise that it's only in Italy it works that way, cause every time he mentions Goodyear to others outside Italy he writes (hand welted) afterwards.

Thanks for the explanation. I understand why Bestetti is qualifying the description because, IMO, Goodyear is no more associated with quality than cement construction or Blake or Blake Rapid...and well behind hand welted.

It's good to know that however because conflating the two terms creates confusion and, I suspect, even a little uncertainty.
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@j ingevaldsson Fantastic Shoes, congrats

Talking of the misleading Goodyear term use, the real reason is that here in Italy the correct transaltion for handwelted term is "guardolo (welt) cucito a mano (handsewn)" , it's long to pronounce and very difficult to understand for common customers being the word guardolo a technic word, unknow to most.

"Goodyear cucito a mano" or "Goodyear a mano" it's the more common way to explain this construction to that large part of customers that come to artisanal shoes from good factory made shoes and with a basic knowledge.
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@j ingevaldsson Fantastic Shoes, congrats

Talking of the misleading Goodyear term use, the real reason is that here in Italy the correct transaltion for handwelted term is "guardolo (welt) cucito a mano (handsewn)" , it's long to pronounce and very difficult to understand for common customers being the word guardolo a technic word, unknow to most.

"Goodyear cucito a mano" or "Goodyear a mano" it's the more common way to explain this construction to that large part of customers that come to artisanal shoes from good factory made shoes and with a basic knowledge.

Thanks for that because a lot of Italian shoemakers also use "hand made" or "hand sewn" as an addition and write it inside the shoes in pen.
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Uptown Dandy with a great IV with Bestetti himself.


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