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post #31 of 56
4/9/11 at 10:42am
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Originally Posted by booyakasha View Post
integrity and dishonesty??? dude, its obvious that he didnt mean to rip you off. he just made the assumption that you wouldn't give a damn about a fucking box. rightly so, most people wouldn't give a shit about the box.

yes, you could say he made a mistake in not letting you know in advance about the "oh so fucking precious" box, but to say that he was dishonest? pretty obvious that he wasn't trying to rip you off. if he was, why the hell would he start this thread and tell the whole world about it?

You see, the keywords here are "assumption" and "most people".
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post #32 of 56
4/9/11 at 10:49am
The seller clearly misrepresented what was being sold. Whether you feel the box has any intrinsic worth is irrelevant. Upon discovering the product was not as described the seller should have contacted the buyer and made clear the new conditions of the sale and offered a full refund at that point in time. This is the behavior you'd desire if a seller discovered a pull in a tie or a nick on a pair of shoes.

The simple fact is the seller did not deliver what was promised and the buyer has a right to be upset. The item shouldn't have been sent in the first place, as you're now in the unfortunate position of having to determine the worth of an item that is clearly highly subjective.

Combining the facts that it's a damn shoe box and that the buyer may be a high-functioning illiterate is unfortunately feeding the board trolls and distracting from the primary issue.
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post #33 of 56
4/9/11 at 10:56am
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Originally Posted by Cahrin View Post
The seller clearly misrepresented what was being sold. Whether you feel the box has any intrinsic worth is irrelevant. Upon discovering the product was not as described the seller should have contacted the buyer and made clear the new conditions of the sale and offered a full refund at that point in time. This is the behavior you'd desire if a seller discovered a pull in a tie or a nick on a pair of shoes.

The simple fact is the seller did not deliver what was promised and the buyer has a right to be upset. The item shouldn't have been sent in the first place, as you're now in the unfortunate position of having to determine the worth of an item that is clearly highly subjective.

Combining the facts that it's a damn shoe box and that the buyer may be a high-functioning illiterate is unfortunately feeding the board trolls and distracting from the primary issue.


Thank you for your fair words. Much appreciated. Just to say I am not offended by the trolls but I just wish people can look at it from a fair point of view.
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post #34 of 56
4/9/11 at 11:10am
A+ threak

I think one could make a business selling original boxes to people to increase increase the resale value of their worn shoes.
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post #35 of 56
4/9/11 at 11:24am
The OP obviously considered the original box to be a selling point or else he wouldn't have mentioned it. Just give back $14. I understand you'd be giving up a case of Natty and a single dose of Aleve, but it's probably fair.
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post #36 of 56
4/9/11 at 11:27am
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Originally Posted by Cahrin View Post
This is the behavior you'd desire if a seller discovered a pull in a tie or a nick on a pair of shoes.
Specious comparison. You're comparing intrinsic and extrinsic properties. The box is extrinsic to the shoes, whilst a pull in a tie or a nick on a pair of shoes effects the intrinsic quality of the product. A better comparison is it's like buying a suit or dress and not receiving the original garment bag/hanger for storage. edit: But seriously, seller just give the guy the $14 and both stop blowing things massively out of proportion for fuck's sake.
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post #37 of 56
4/9/11 at 11:56am
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Originally Posted by slide13 View Post
That being said OP...you sold some boots for a couple hundred bucks and misrepresented a minor detail....the guy wants $14....it's not like he's asking for a a ton money or to return the boots, just give it to him.

Honestly, I think getting worked up over a damn White's shoe box is unreasonable...but I think it's also unreasonable to start a whole thread on this when the guy is only asking for $14, which seems a rather paltry sum in the grand scheme of it.

Exactly. "How big a deal is the original box when selling a pair of boots?" is not the right question to be asking in this situation.

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Originally Posted by Atomkun View Post
If anyone is a idiot, it is him



You might want to acclimate yourself to this forum before running around trying to rally the troops. The OP stated you "went ballistic via PM" over the box and your (unneeded) participation in this thread is making you come across as someone very difficult to deal with. Please google: flies honey vinegar.
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post #38 of 56
4/9/11 at 12:27pm
Siding with the seller simply because that's how a buy/sell works. Seller provides description Buy makes purchase based on this description Seller does not provide product as described, therefore is in the wrong. Why is there even a discussion to this. There's a reason eBay and every other online merchant/buyer agreement follows this. No reason a site like SF can't.
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post #39 of 56
4/9/11 at 12:33pm
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Originally Posted by illicitstylz View Post
Siding with the seller simply because that's how a buy/sell works.

Seller provides description

Buy makes purchase based on this description

Seller does not provide product as described, therefore is in the wrong.

Why is there even a discussion to this. There's a reason eBay and every other online merchant/buyer agreement follows this. No reason a site like SF can't.
you mean buyer?
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post #40 of 56
4/9/11 at 12:39pm
14$ how much did the shoes sell for? Better be over 150.
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post #41 of 56
4/9/11 at 12:41pm
Special flowers can ship stuff without a box. Live with it.
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post #42 of 56
4/9/11 at 12:56pm
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Originally Posted by Desi View Post
14$ how much did the shoes sell for? Better be over 150.

$330
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post #43 of 56
4/9/11 at 1:34pm
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Originally Posted by Atomkun View Post
Yeah, that's what I have been trying to tell him but he just don't seem to get it.. The point I am trying to put across here is that yes, he may have promised the original box but when he realised that he is not able to find the box when shipping out, he should have the courtesy to let me know if I still want the item or should he refund me? Either way he dont lose out since I have paid the 4%paypal charges and for me to put the refunded amount back to my bank, I will have to incur extra cost on my side! If i had still agreed to Accept the boots without the og box, then I wouldn't have anything to say but he don't even bother to inform me. That's what makes me so pissed.
No, you won't. If he uses the "issue refund" function on PayPal, you get all the fees back from PayPal when he refunds you. Personally, I think the seller should have told you that he didn't have the box, when he found that out, before he shipped the boots to you. That way, as a buyer, you would have had the option of either completing the deal, walking away with no loss to either of you, or working out some sort of compromise. At least the seller is trying to work things out with you now.
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post #44 of 56
4/9/11 at 3:16pm
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Can I just send you the $14 so we can end this?
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post #45 of 56
4/9/11 at 5:25pm
honest mistake on alleyoop's side. atomkun is a fucking retard -____-
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