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post #31 of 99
Every era has a reigning look.

The seventies had a structured euro Pierre Cardin.

The eighties and nineties had a loose flowing Armani look inspired by drape suits of the 'forties.

The decade just past had the shrunken Slimane/Browne suit.

Every one of them rose and fell.

GQ exists to deliver consumers' eyeballs to its fashion advertisers. The target demographic is the same as this forum, young men in their twenties and thirties with some money to spend, new lives to dress for and not a lot of responsibilities or family obligations.

We have our fads here, and the board does have its sponsors, but there is a greater faith in what the style writers would call classical proportions.

I've sold and worn coats of many lands and many decades, and know that there are some combinations of proportions that will look good not for five years but for a generation, which is 'timeless' enough for me. For ex, a few months ago I sold an A&S coat from 1938. I tried it on and showed it to a fitter I know. He said it looked good. I think I could get a similarly good-looking coat from them today, if I had a few thousand dollars.
post #32 of 99
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Originally Posted by jrd617 View Post
Old timers: did people really aspire to own suits that fit like this?
Not I. In the 90s I was having my suits made on Savile Row. The same was true in the 80s ... and the 70s. In short ... I was wearing good clothing long before there was an Internet to tell others what good clothing is.
post #33 of 99
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Originally Posted by gnatty8 View Post
WTF happened to Alec Baldwin?
The same thing that will happen to you.
post #34 of 99
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Originally Posted by Nautilus View Post
Today's tightest suits and short jackets are going to be equally laughable in 20 years.
It won't take nearly that long ... three to five years at the most. Short jackets not even that long.
post #35 of 99
So what are some of the classic designs and proportions that can be used to avoid the fads?
post #36 of 99
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Originally Posted by Captain Winky View Post
I think the cut of his suit is just as bad as the rest. What saves his look is the following:

1. He's wearing a good dark color, vs. that greyish olive that everyone in the 90s seemed really into.

2. He doesn't have the rest of the "90s douchebag" look, such as hair style.

3. It's possible to see that guy and today's Andy Garcia as the same person. Look at Alec Baldwin or Tiger Woods, and you just want to laugh.

I think you hit the nail on the head. Much better explanation.

Andy Garcia is wearing the suit. In all the other cases the the suits are wearing them.
post #37 of 99
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Originally Posted by zippo69 View Post
So what are some of the classic designs and proportions that can be used to avoid the fads?

I dont think there are classic designs.





I love men's suits from the 20's. But if you were to wear this today SF would laugh at you.

Today's style if short jackets and skinny pants.

I think you really need new suits every 5-7 yrs.

Does someone out there have a suit they bought 15 years ago that they still wear today? Of course you can alter it.
post #38 of 99
Lots of SFers think they dress classically when they are simply following the current trend for very fitted garments.
post #39 of 99
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Originally Posted by radicaldog View Post
Lots of SFers think they dress classically when they are simply following the current trend for very fitted garments.
Garments that will give us all a good laugh in a few short years ... and for some, even at the current time.
post #40 of 99
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Originally Posted by zippo69 View Post
So what are some of the classic designs and proportions that can be used to avoid the fads?
Here is a coat: From the tailoring details,I am fairly certain it is English. But I really can't tell when it was made. The client label is missing. Is it from the forties? The seventies? Last week? I'm not saying it's in fashion (although Tom Ford or Polo might do something similar today), but a man may wear it and look good regardless.
post #41 of 99
The suppressed waist makes it seem very modern but the cloth dates it somewhat. I definitely see what you mean about TF possibly selling something similar these days.
post #42 of 99
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Originally Posted by LVoer View Post
The suppressed waist makes it seem very modern but the cloth dates it somewhat. I definitely see what you mean about TF possibly selling something similar these days.
Pray tell ... how does the cloth date it? I've seen similar cloth at Huntsman only recently. I also saw similar cloth decades ago.
post #43 of 99
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Originally Posted by WoolPants View Post
I dont think there are classic designs. I love men's suits from the 20's. But if you were to wear this today SF would laugh at you.
Eh? Apart from the done up bottom buttons SF would certainly not laugh at anyone dressed like that. In-fact, someone dressing like that would probably get considerable praise in WAYWRN.
post #44 of 99
It's clear that the "jackets as long as the sleeves" Thom Browne thing is very far from timeless, but what about today's mainstream which has taken an essentially timeless suit and slimmed it up. I could understand some future concessions to comfort (pleats mostly) but are suits going to be so baggy or wide lapelled that 2010 Tom Ford looks ridiculous in 2025? Please comment if you've been conscious of men's wear for over 30 years.
post #45 of 99
the 50's and 60's could easily be worn today: 70's werent bad: 1986: I think we actually had this at an RL store last year. 89 97
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