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120Hz v. 60Hz refresh rate for 32" LCD TV? deciding between 2 options inside

post #1 of 16
4/9/10 at 3:29pm
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Grabbing a 32" LCD for the bedroom and am deciding between these two options, both are 1080p however one is 60Hz and the other 120Hz, just wondering if this is really a big deal on a 32" tv....

here they are:

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-AC9AaAi...-LN32C530.html

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Vizio-32-c...44440290269761

also anyothers I should consider in that price range...
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post #2 of 16
4/9/10 at 4:28pm
Samsung, if I had to choose between the two. That Vizio is a POS. You have a lot of options to choose from in that price range. Just keep an eye out on slickdeals.net.
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post #3 of 16
4/9/10 at 4:33pm
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Q: While shopping for an HDTV television set, I noticed that some of the newer (and more expensive) sets boast a 120-Hz refresh rate. What the heck does that mean, and should it be a factor in deciding which set to buy?

A: The refresh rate denotes how often the image on the screen is redrawn each second. It's usually expressed in hertz, a unit of measurement for frequencies. The standard refresh rate for TVs until now has been 60 Hz. For most television programming that's perfectly adequate, because video for TV usually is shot at 30 frames per second-which divides evenly into 60. The only time you run into problems is with movies on film, which traditionally have been shot at 24 frames per second. Because 24 doesn't divide evenly into 60, a mathematical process is needed to synchronize the picture. But you don't need that process if you double the refresh rate to 120, which happens to be exactly divisible by 24.

http://articles.sfgate.com/2008-03-0...click-big-deal
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post #4 of 16
4/9/10 at 4:58pm
120hz is one of those things that I don't think about much or use to its full potential, but I'd miss if it was gone. It's nice to have the option to de-blur sports games to the max, and to find an ideal settings for film. I'd go the 120hz even tho it's a smaller TV.
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post #5 of 16
4/9/10 at 5:06pm
I can't stand 120hz LCDs. They look so unnatural.
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post #6 of 16
4/9/10 at 8:01pm
I watched the Oscars on a 120Hz TV - something about it made everything on TV look like it was shot with a video camera (that hyper-real look). Do not like, and it would give me a headache trying to watch a normal show/movie.
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post #7 of 16
4/9/10 at 8:19pm
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Originally Posted by milosz View Post
I watched the Oscars on a 120Hz TV - something about it made everything on TV look like it was shot with a video camera (that hyper-real look). Do not like, and it would give me a headache trying to watch a normal show/movie.
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I can't stand 120hz LCDs. They look so unnatural.
You guys are both talking about the dejudder feature that many TVs have which gives shots an on ice sort of look. This and 120 Hz are independent of each other. Even some 60 Hz TVs (very few, but some) have dejuddering. The difference between the two is that 120 Hz TVs reconcile the frame pull down process and make it an integer multiple of the input source while dejudder actually tries to interpolate between frames. http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6029_7-7012423-1.html That said, get the Samsung.
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post #8 of 16
4/9/10 at 10:00pm
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You guys are both talking about the dejudder feature that many TVs have which gives shots an on ice sort of look. This and 120 Hz are independent of each other. Even some 60 Hz TVs (very few, but some) have dejuddering. The difference between the two is that 120 Hz TVs reconcile the frame pull down process and make it an integer multiple of the input source while dejudder actually tries to interpolate between frames.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6029_7-7012423-1.html

That said, get the Samsung.

even tho its only 60hz? I am planning on watching blu rays on it quite a bit...
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post #9 of 16
4/9/10 at 10:20pm
I have a 32" Sony Bravia in my bedroom. I was debating between the 60hz and 120hz model, and the hyper-real look sold it for me. I stared at the 2 models side by side for what must have been hours in the store. Now that I have it, I honestly don't think it was worth paying extra for (at the time it was a $400 premium to get the XBR which was the only one that had it)
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post #10 of 16
4/9/10 at 10:51pm
120 is far better than 60, especially for high-speed action.
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post #11 of 16
4/10/10 at 12:14am
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Originally Posted by pg600rr View Post
even tho its only 60hz? I am planning on watching blu rays on it quite a bit...

I'd go to AVS Forums to get the final word. Historically, Samsung has had some of the most consistently well-received TVs. There are so many models that it's hard to keep track and honestly the reviews on most retailer sites aren't worth much because people have different expectations for TVs and that skews the reviews.

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Originally Posted by FidelCashflow View Post
I have a 32" Sony Bravia in my bedroom. I was debating between the 60hz and 120hz model, and the hyper-real look sold it for me. I stared at the 2 models side by side for what must have been hours in the store. Now that I have it, I honestly don't think it was worth paying extra for (at the time it was a $400 premium to get the XBR which was the only one that had it)

Sony doesn't use Hyperreal. That's Samsung's marketing term for their image processing engine. You might be referring to Sony's Motionflow.

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120 is far better than 60, especially for high-speed action.

That's a tough generalization to make. There are 60 Hz TVs out there with essentially no ghosting.
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post #12 of 16
4/10/10 at 12:29am
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Sony doesn't use Hyperreal. That's Samsung's marketing term for their image processing engine. You might be referring to Sony's Motionflow.

You are correct, sony does call 120hz motionflow, but at the end of day motion flow and hyper-real are just buzzwords to try and simplify and sell 120hz
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post #13 of 16
4/10/10 at 12:30am
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That's a tough generalization to make. There are 60 Hz TVs out there with essentially no ghosting.

Sometimes its pixelization and not ghosting.
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post #14 of 16
4/10/10 at 5:50am
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Originally Posted by musicguy View Post
I can't stand 120hz LCDs. They look so unnatural.
you're (or they're) using it wrong. you only turn the dejudder on full for sports games. otherwise, use medium or none.
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post #15 of 16
4/11/10 at 4:33am
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Originally Posted by ramuman View Post
You guys are both talking about the dejudder feature that many TVs have which gives shots an on ice sort of look. This and 120 Hz are independent of each other. Even some 60 Hz TVs (very few, but some) have dejuddering. The difference between the two is that 120 Hz TVs reconcile the frame pull down process and make it an integer multiple of the input source while dejudder actually tries to interpolate between frames.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6029_7-7012423-1.html

That said, get the Samsung.

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Originally Posted by Sebastian_Flyte View Post
you're (or they're) using it wrong.

you only turn the dejudder on full for sports games. otherwise, use medium or none.

Thanks for clearing that up.
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