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Anybody know this?

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Regarding Italian wine.. has anyone had one of these, or knows the producers?

Vietti La Crena DOC Barbera d'Asti 2005
Vietti Castiglione DOCG Barolo 1995
Mascarello Codana DOC Barbera d'Alba 1998
Santadi Terre Brune Carignano del Sulcis DOC Superiore 2004
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Originally Posted by coolpapa View Post

A belated Valentines day meal for my wife and a few friends. Selosse Brut with caviar creme fraiche and blinis, and chaource and baguette, Ramey Sonoma Coast Chard with lobster pot pie, 88 Montebello with cheeses, and 68 Jimsomare Zin as a novelty.

ETA: the Selosse is better than the Pol Roger WC, by a lot, at least at this point in time. It' has an incredibly fine bead, like none I've experienced before.


Love Selosse. I need to try some older Ridge wines. Nice haul.
post #15424 of 17485
Just ordered a few German and Austrian wines, mostly whites. Dönnhoff, Knab, Bassermann-Jordan, Loimer, Tina Pfaffmann. Already looking forward to all of them.
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Love Selosse. I need to try some older Ridge wines. Nice haul.
I couldn't see through the last glass of Selosse. I love Selosse also, wish it was easier to find.
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Thread Starter 
Yes, Tres Picos
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Dinner with friends last night- A very nice Barbaresco!

 

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^^Just drank my last 2001 of the Pio
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Originally Posted by Cary Grant View Post

^^Just drank my last 2001 of the Pio


How was that?  I'm thinking about buying a case here and keeping for about 10 years- but it drank very nicely last night!  I also like the Fides from Pio. 

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It's a nice wine- Not my favorite but nice.
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I am not a wine person, but lately my interest in becoming cultured had me looking to expand my alcoholic beverage horizons. For many years I have been a rum n coke guy with the rare trip into port, usually sandeman reserve. I liked it enough but had nothing to compare it to regarding if it was a "good" port or not. 

So today after picking up a few things from the store for dinner I stopped by Binnys (local to Illinois alcohol outlet) and asked the only person I could find for a Bordeaux recommendation because I had heard good things about it. I told her I was looking for something in the 20-25 range. She pointed one out but said if I was willing to spend just a few dollars more then the chateau haut-bergey 2008 was one she liked quite a lot. I figured she was just trying to up sell but figured what the hell, I'd give it a shot. Ended up around $32 after tax. 

I got home, started dinner and poured a glass. It was the most disappointing experience I've ever had...  I don't know much about wine. I don't have a refined palate and hints of various favors or smells were nowhere to be seen frown.gif

It was like... I could tell that there was a cool liquid on my tongue but I could taste nothing. I was confused. After swallowing it was like post-alcohol-induced vomit after taste. I was almost completely turned off on red wine. :-(


Then something happened. I wasnt goi to waste a thirty dollar bottle of wine so I poured another glass and started messing around with my iPad after dinner. About half way through the glass, I sniffed and got a wiff of smuckers jelly. And then I could actually taste things with the tip of my tongue. I can't really describe what I tasted other than very distant grape but googling says this wine should maybe be stored for a few more years? I don't have a decanter so maybe just letting the open bottle helped?

Anyways, I think I like this after waiting the hour or so between glasses. Could anyone maybe recommend something similar around 15-25$ range? It would be greatly appreciated. Also, something higher end up to about 50-70 if there will (eventually for me) be an appreciable difference from the Haut-Bergey. 

Thanks in advance! I've read through this entire thread, hoping to gain tidbits of knowledge where I can!
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While I don't think one should ever "force" themselves into liking something to make them cultured I do think that spending over $30 on wines if you don't even know if you like wine or not is unnecessary. While it is true that many wines "open-up" after being popped open for a while I don't think any wine can go from pukey after taste to jam. It could have been a bad bottle. I seriously recommend that for a beginner to red wine stick with cheaper bottles imported by Kermit Lynch. It will remove a lot of crap wines that you can come across. Mr. Lynch has impeccable taste and you will know if you don't like one of his wines, it is because, well, you don't prefer it, not because it is a bad wine. From there brach out to different importers and producers of the regions that you like the best. To be fair, Lynch seems to prefer Beaujolais and Rhone Valley wines, but he has many others as well. I would keep a dairy of the producer, region, alcohol level of some of the wines you try along with why, or why not you liked it. After a while revisit them ones you liked and disliked. It is interesting to see how your taste develops and changes over time.
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Thanks for your suggestions. The pukey taste thing was a milder version to how it felt the very first time I drank straight hard alcohol. I wasn't sure if the wine 'opened up' or that my mouth was getting more accustomed to the wine. I will look into KL.
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That's very interesting as Bordeaux is not exactly known for making high alcohol wines.
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Originally Posted by Powertrip View Post

I am not a wine person, but lately my interest in becoming cultured had me looking to expand my alcoholic beverage horizons. For many years I have been a rum n coke guy with the rare trip into port, usually sandeman reserve. I liked it enough but had nothing to compare it to regarding if it was a "good" port or not. 

So today after picking up a few things from the store for dinner I stopped by Binnys (local to Illinois alcohol outlet) and asked the only person I could find for a Bordeaux recommendation because I had heard good things about it. I told her I was looking for something in the 20-25 range. She pointed one out but said if I was willing to spend just a few dollars more then the chateau haut-bergey 2008 was one she liked quite a lot. I figured she was just trying to up sell but figured what the hell, I'd give it a shot. Ended up around $32 after tax. 

I got home, started dinner and poured a glass. It was the most disappointing experience I've ever had...  I don't know much about wine. I don't have a refined palate and hints of various favors or smells were nowhere to be seen frown.gif

It was like... I could tell that there was a cool liquid on my tongue but I could taste nothing. I was confused. After swallowing it was like post-alcohol-induced vomit after taste. I was almost completely turned off on red wine. :-(


Then something happened. I wasnt goi to waste a thirty dollar bottle of wine so I poured another glass and started messing around with my iPad after dinner. About half way through the glass, I sniffed and got a wiff of smuckers jelly. And then I could actually taste things with the tip of my tongue. I can't really describe what I tasted other than very distant grape but googling says this wine should maybe be stored for a few more years? I don't have a decanter so maybe just letting the open bottle helped?

Anyways, I think I like this after waiting the hour or so between glasses. Could anyone maybe recommend something similar around 15-25$ range? It would be greatly appreciated. Also, something higher end up to about 50-70 if there will (eventually for me) be an appreciable difference from the Haut-Bergey. 

Thanks in advance! I've read through this entire thread, hoping to gain tidbits of knowledge where I can!

That bile-ish tart flavor is a normal think when you open a bottle- if it persists after waiting then you have a bad bottle, but it's not going to happen that often. 

Decanting can be done for any wine but for your lower end stuff I don't find it as needed.  For a better bottle I'll decant 1-2 hours. 

 

As mentioned above- no need to spend that much on wine until you have a better idea of what you like.  I'd start with easy drinking wines like Louis M. Martini cabernet and Mark West pinot noir.  You will be able to drink wines in the 12-15 dollar section for years and really built your palette.  Just grab a bottle or two every weekend and take pictures on your iphone and make notes about your opinions.  Don't worry about all the fancy jargon- just a few notes.  (Speaking of Jargon- that's a decent starter wine too!)

 

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