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post #31 of 41
5/15/09 at 12:13pm
While I love the look of the Panoz Le Mans Esperantes, the street version just looks a little off.

I think in retrospect they should have aimed at the Viper/Ultima GTR instead of building a grand tourer.





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post #32 of 41
5/16/09 at 6:25pm
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Originally Posted by Christofuh View Post
Future sporty Opels can be rolled into Chevy line-up. So the departure of Saturn is no great loss.



I would rather drive an Opel than anything with any of GM's labels on it. Whenever I see a car with Chevy's symbol on it I think Chevrolet = Crapolet. You think they could learn a lesson from Hyundai's recent introduction of the Genesis and leave that ugly cross-thing off their cars. I think they would sell more of them if they did.
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post #33 of 41
5/17/09 at 12:41am
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Originally Posted by Christofuh View Post
Yawn. Re-skinned Rustangs with Ford instrument pack.
And they should get the fuck out with that MSRP of theirs.
Um you're very wrong.

If you get a chance, check out some of their past events in ALMS...they make some pretty interesting cars.
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post #34 of 41
5/17/09 at 12:45am
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But the original AIV was an interesting car. Would've been more interesting with a small BMW straight six or someone's high-revving four-pot than with the 4.9L iron pushrod lump they used, that would've been on my radar screen for sure.


Ford fazed out the pushrods, the AIV actually used the Cobra's 4.6 32v DOHC modular. The torque curve is part of what made the car so interesting.

Otherwise, I agree completely with everything you said.
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post #35 of 41
5/22/09 at 1:28am
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Originally Posted by crazyquik View Post
Don Panoz.

Dr. Don.

Made his fortune off the technology in the transdermal nicotine patch. Bought Road Atlanta (racetrack) and a hotel/resort/winery in Georgia. And built a race team to compete at Le Mans. And his son built a single-model car company.



Panoz has always sourced Ford powertrains though. No love for the General

Is Mr. Fire driving that thing?
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post #36 of 41
5/22/09 at 1:23pm
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Ford fazed out the pushrods, the AIV actually used the Cobra's 4.6 32v DOHC modular. The torque curve is part of what made the car so interesting.

Actually, they used both in the AIV's run. We I met Danny Panoz* it was the old 4.9L (302) pushrod motor, I think with an SVT intake manifold.

*Believe it or not, he was once showing his car inside the front doors of a Publix supermarket in the 'burbs of Atlanta. I happened to be in the store with my mother. I was maybe 12 or 13, and had read the SCI article on the AIV. I think he was excited that someone knew something about his car, and he talked to me for long enough for my mother to finish her shopping and get annoyed with me. But at least our little convo drew a few people in who might have actually been able to drive and afford one. Maybe he sold one or two off of it.
That time period (early 1990s) was a bit of a golden age for niche cars in Georgia. There was another one called the Evans Series-1 that was basically a Kudzu IMSA chassis with a Chevy small block mated to a Pantera's ZF transaxle. I can't find a picture of one online, and don't know if he actually sold any, but it was available.
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post #37 of 41
6/5/09 at 12:36am
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Anybody know what's the story on Holden ?
GM is said to be selling just the name "Saturn". The new buyer will be expected to figure out the issue of future vehicle supplier on their own.
For a brief period GM would keep the Saturn plant open so that the buyer can maintain a new vehicle inventory.
Following that, it's gonna be Good Luck and Good Night
BTW, I was under the impression that the latest crop of Saturns were rebadged Opels assembled in Belgium
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post #38 of 41
6/7/09 at 1:36pm
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Originally Posted by Christofuh View Post
Anybody know what's the story on Holden ?
GM is said to be selling just the name "Saturn". The new buyer will be expected to figure out the issue of future vehicle supplier on their own.
For a brief period GM would keep the Saturn plant open so that the buyer can maintain a new vehicle inventory.
Following that, it's gonna be Good Luck and Good Night
BTW, I was under the impression that the latest crop of Saturns were rebadged Opels assembled in Belgium
I haven't really heard anything about Holden, just the majority of the US companies and Opel. I actually liked some of the Opel designs, but wished GM would have considered transfering some to the U.S. market earlier, instead of focusing on large trucks and bland sedan designs i.e. Impala and Buick Lacrosse.
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post #39 of 41
6/7/09 at 2:00pm
I wish they'd start making hybrid/electric cars and put bodies from 1967-1975 muscle cars on them
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post #40 of 41
6/7/09 at 2:38pm
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I wish they'd start making hybrid/electric cars and put bodies from 1967-1975 muscle cars on them

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post #41 of 41
6/8/09 at 7:26am
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Another car GM morons probably won't bring across the pond


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