Wot Jermyn str. (RTW) shirts are best?

In your most appreciated view?

I might get shot at for this, but, IMO Turnbull & Asser makes very good shirts, if you get them on sale at Harrods, they are around 50GBP, so to me, they seem to be of good value. Dunhill (the made in italy ones) seem pretty good too, fabric is rather soft and light. Harvie & Hudson make very, very good shirts for the price, 99GBP for 3 shirts, although I think that fabric is a bit too thick for my tastes.

My 2 pence

Subjective matter...

_ Amongst traditional Jermyn Street shirtmakers, I'd rank T&A and H&K in the first tier. N&L is very close to them but I like them a bit less.
_ I know they receive criticism here but in my opinion Charles Tyrwhitt shirts are good value for money when bought at reduced prices (ie all the time). However, they don't compare to T&A and H&K in terms of fabric and construction. TM Lewin probably plays in the same league as CT but the collars don't work as well for me.
_ I've had good experiences with Coles (not on Jermyn Street but who cares) too.
_ I think Pink shirts are overrated and overpriced.

The rest I don't know enough to make judgements.

Of those that I've owned, CT definitely is of the lowest quality. I liked the TM Lewin shirt that I had very much and my two Thomas Pink shirts (both Made in Ireland) were the best of the three.

Not sure what ppl think about Hawes and Curtis on here but I got a couple of their shirts on sale last time I was in London and I'm happy with them.

I think Ede & Ravenscroft makes beautiful shirts. Not cheap, but certainly high quality. Hilditch & Key is also worth a try, especially when they have a sale.

CT offers a product that is based on the same designs, but their products match their price: they're inferior to real Jermyn Street shirts. I've bought a lot of CT shirts in their sales, just to wear to work, but I am done with them. I'd rather save up and get 1 nice shirt than 4 mediocre CT ones.

I agree that Pink is overpriced --and overrated.
It seems with Jermyn Street shirts, the more marketing, the worse the shirt.

I have a t&a and a tmlewin and i would say the turnbull is in the next highest group quality wise, but they are both nice shirts with nice smooth cotton

Originally Posted by Goldie

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I think Ede & Ravenscroft makes beautiful shirts. Not cheap, but certainly high quality. Hilditch & Key is also worth a try, especially when they have a sale. CT offers a product that is based on the same designs, but their products match their price: they're inferior to real Jermyn Street shirts. I've bought a lot of CT shirts in their sales, just to wear to work, but I am done with them. I'd rather save up and get 1 nice shirt than 4 mediocre CT ones. I agree that Pink is overpriced --and overrated. It seems with Jermyn Street shirts, the more marketing, the worse the shirt.
Regarding CT, that's exactly my point. At the GBP 30 price point, they are perfect workhorse shirts, the kind of shirt I pick in my closet on regular mornings. They look good, but certainly don't maintain as well as pricier ones. Having said that, even if I'm the first to buy H&K over CT if I have a choice, I have to confess I'm not fully convinced that the price difference only reflects quality & fit differences. To me, a CT shirt is simply just not 2 times worse than a H&K shirt (I'm not addressing patterns issues here, only quality, durability and fit). Yet, very often, a H&K shirt is double the price of a CT.

there's an irish-owned brand, not on Jermyn St., called "Henry Jermyn." got a shirt there in dublin, and it's better than TM Lewin, equal to Pink or a bit better, just to throw another option out there!

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Regarding CT, that's exactly my point. At the GBP 30 price point, they are perfect workhorse shirts, the kind of shirt I pick in my closet on regular mornings. They look good, but certainly don't maintain as well as pricier ones. Having said that, even if I'm the first to buy H&K over CT if I have a choice, I have to confess I'm not fully convinced that the price difference only reflects quality & fit differences. To me, a CT shirt is simply just not 2 times worse than a H&K shirt (I'm not addressing patterns issues here, only quality, durability and fit). Yet, very often, a H&K shirt is double the price of a CT.

Well, it seems to me you're comparing apples and pears. There is the category of 'Jermyn street shirt'. H&K belongs in that category. So does T&A, Ede & Ravenscroft, some others.

Then there is a big gap in quality -- and then you get to the category of Jermyn Street copyists. These shirt makers have taken the basic design and type of patterns offered by Jermyn Street and make them in cheap-labor locations, with lesser quality materials and much lower standards of workmanship. Clearly, CT falls in this category of Jermyn Street for the masses. As does Pink.

Now, compare with cars. For a family of five owning two or three Hondas probably makes a lot more sense than owning one Bentley. Practical needs unfortunately must come first, given budget restraints.

But let's not pretend Bentleys and Hondas belong to the same category of thing.

Thanks for your views; T&A is priciest but maybe I'll try that one next cause it has a good rep.; till now I have only experience with TM Lewin which is actually quite good and held up well during the years and Harvie&H. whose offer for 3 shirt à ~50€ is also fair, cant say much, yet; received that order just the other day- price is good if one looks at the quality...

How would a T&A fare next to a Brioni- are prices a good reflection for relative quality, there...?

When Charles Tyrwhitt first started advertising in the states around 4-5 years ago, the quality was way better then it is now with almost all of the fabric wearable and elegant. Now every year, they have these ugly stripes and only one or two fabrics that are wearable. And with construction and fit that are just plain crap.

Listening to you guys I'd rather leave out CT if ordering online..maybe I could check out the store some time when in London...

I ordered from H&H out of the blue online...so went for very laid back and casual stuff (will append pic)...but I must say that compared to TM Lew. the "regular" sleeves are a tick too long (on the button downs)...so take care there, everyone- ordering online is always a very iffy business, anyway...otherwise there're ok- like 'em..

I've tried Harvie and Hudson (H&H), Hilditch and Key (H&K), New and Lingwood (N&L), Coles and Charles Tyrwhitt.

As others have said, Tyrwhitt quality is not nearly as good, but you get what you pay for. They're a serviceable shirt, albeit with a rather stiff collar.

Of the others, I found H&K to fit me best. Their standard shirts have a slightly slimmer fit, in my experience, than the others that I've named above, and they just seem to suit my frame really well. Having said that, for the quality, H&H is truly excellent value if you take advantage of their "3 for GBP100" deal.

Coles is nice, but I prefer H&K and H&H.

N&L is also very nice, but not so nice as to be worth a premium over H&H. I can't remember whether my N&L shirt cost more than my H&K shirts.

H&K's RTW shirts are the best quality RTW on Jermyn St. Turnbull & Asser's RTW shirts are well made and may be more elegant with their pronounced collar and flashy 3-button cuff.