Transparent Moderation Log & Site Topics - Part I

Wait, I'm confused. So Ed and Conne were given time outs? For how long? And what exactly did they do?

Originally Posted by lawyerdad

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"(I never saw the comments made by Ed and Conne so I have no personal opinion on whether they in fact crossed any lines.)"

I can't make any argument effectively on a message board to someone who can't read.

You see no contradiction in expecting members to follow "established norms" but have no idea of what they are?

Originally Posted by STYLESTUDENT

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You see no contradiction in expecting members to follow "established norms" but have no idea of what they are?

I think LD is deferring to J's judgment here.

Originally Posted by STYLESTUDENT

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Well, counselor, please cite the established rules and norms that were violated. If you're not aware of them, I doubt that you can make this argument effectively.

"Gratitude" means that, if Ed has treated the members of this forum well, he should be treated well himself. But, as I said, the concept is not well known.


Steven

Merged into Trans Mod.

Let's put it this way: you're at your house having a party when one of your male acquaintances makes a lewd comment about one of your female friends or relatives, who is present. One of your other male guests (who brought a nice bottle of wine, by the way) mentions loudly how he would get his video camera if said lewd scenario were to happen.

So, you'd just blow it off, because he brought good wine?

Personally, I'd suggest he and the first guy might have had a bit much to drink and help them find their coats.

Originally Posted by STYLESTUDENT

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You see no contradiction in expecting members to follow "established norms" but have no idea of what they are?

I think every male over the age of 12 or so should know established norms concerning lewd comments toward females who might hear or read them and who would be made uncomfortable. I don't think that is unreasonable.

Also, I'd like to point out that in forcing the issue you've obligated me to elaborate, which is probably making things harder on Ed. As I told him, I like him, and appreciate having him as a member, and know he was joking around, but I have to enforce rules and "non rule immediate judgment calls" or they mean nothing.

Originally Posted by STYLESTUDENT

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You see no contradiction in expecting members to follow "established norms" but have no idea of what they are?

Um... as far as the SF universe goes, J is kinda like god or something. He is omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent. Meaning while it may suck; it may in fact be wrong, but J is still right.

J,

I have no intention of forcing the issue, requesting elaboration, or making things more difficult for anyone on this forum including Ed, Conne, or yourself.

Steven

Originally Posted by STYLESTUDENT

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J,

I have no intention of forcing the issue, requesting elaboration, or making things more difficult for anyone on this forum including Ed, Conne, or yourself.

Steven
Well, you've done so with your snide comments, and you've gotten your elaboration. I hope it's not too "kindergarten" for you that we try to keep our female members from being made to feel uncomfortable, with no preferential treatment based on the stature of the offending member. To put it in kindergarten terms, the popular kids have to follow the rules too.

I posted the original thread about "When is Ed coming back", in the B & S forum.

I did not ask why he was put on vacation nor did I care. The way I look at it, J has a tough job that someone has to do! What happened was not my business.

I was a bit sarcastic as I usually am, in that initial thread.

But to be quite clear. Ed is a good guy and a great seller with fabulous deals on super quality NWT items, that he generally offered here first, as I've often said. I think that he was a real asset to SF.

I hope that all of these issues become water under the bridge and Ed returns. I really hope that Ed doesn't get a resentment. Are you out there Ed?

Oh yes, and Conne too, while he may not be a quality seller, I don't want to see the lad drink himself to oblivion.

Ok. for the sake of transparency, how long are conne and ed given time out for?

Edit: ^^ to rnoldh

I agree, and I hope all the beating the subject to death doesn't make what Ed did look worse than it was. It was just a stupid, joking, pile-on comment that was inappropriate, he knows it and I'm sure won't do it again.

Originally Posted by teddieriley

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Ok. for the sake of transparency, how long are conne and ed given time out for?
Ed's is over, it was a week then I cut it to 3 days. Conne's was a week and I added 3 days when he made another account to avoid the ban. That boy don't learn.

^^Hilarious for Conne. After all those threads showing the omnipotent powers you have as a mod, I can't believe he thought he could get away by creating a new account. Bafoon.

Originally Posted by teddieriley

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^^Hilarious for Conne. After all those threads showing the omnipotent powers you have as a mod, I can't believe he thought he could get away by creating a new account. Bafoon.

I dunno. I got all excited when I got a PM from new member JudJol997.

Originally Posted by teddieriley

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^^Hilarious for Conne. After all those threads showing the omnipotent powers you have as a mod, I can't believe he thought he could get away by creating a new account. Bafoon.
I don't know if he was trying to be too slick. I mean, with a user name like "iLUVtinaTURNER" he had to figure someone would catch on.

Oh Conne, making another account to avoid the ban. Suck it up boy!