SUIT YOUR SHAPE: GQ primer for the hard-to-fit

texas_jack · Jul 23, 2007

Originally Posted by lpwb32

my only complaint would be calling someone 5'8" short when the avg height of american men is 5'9". if 5'8" is short and 6'5" is tall, then on avg everyone is a 6 footer?

I thought that was weird too.

csgrad · Jul 23, 2007

Good article with good choices of brands. Prada for the tall and slim, Dolce Gabbana for the muscular, and Zegna for the hefty.

DGP · Jul 23, 2007

Originally Posted by csgrad

Good article with good choices of brands. Prada for the tall and slim, Dolce Gabbana for the muscular, and Zegna for the hefty.

I take issue with the Zegna choice. I'm 6'1, 172 and Zegna is my favorite OTR suit by far. Fits me much better than Armani, Canali, or Cornelianai. I think it all depends on what model you go for, but I have a Trofeo (MTM, only small adjustments) and a Traveler (OTR from Saks), also minimal adjustments. My only complaint, as on most RTW suits, is the pants being a bit baggy. But that's only because I want Zegna quality with a Prada fit, and am more willing to sacrifice the latter.

Tarmac · Jul 23, 2007

article is not bad. the only strange thing is that everyone's "after" pic looks almost exactly the same. I suppose that was the objective

wpdoyle · Jul 23, 2007

Originally Posted by lpwb32

my only complaint would be calling someone 5'8" short when the avg height of american men is 5'9".

Actually, according to a study cited in this week's Time, the average American man is now 5'10". That may sound high, but relatively speaking, we are shrinking in comparison to many European countries (e.g., the average man's height in the Netherlands is 6 feet tall)!

DGP · Jul 23, 2007

Originally Posted by wpdoyle

Actually, according to a study cited in this week's Time, the average American man is now 5'10". That may sound high, but relatively speaking, we are shrinking in comparison to many European countries (e.g., the average man's height in the Netherlands is 6 feet tall)!

Think about who's coming to America now, it's no longer Brits, Germans, and Swedes. I bet if you looked at the more traditional American populations, mainly caucasians and African Americans, you wouldn't see them shrinking.

drizzt3117 · Jul 23, 2007

Originally Posted by wpdoyle

Actually, according to a study cited in this week's Time, the average American man is now 5'10". That may sound high, but relatively speaking, we are shrinking in comparison to many European countries (e.g., the average man's height in the Netherlands is 6 feet tall)!

The dutch are also the tallest people in the world so that's not a particularly good comparison.

LA Guy · Jul 23, 2007

Liddell is a beast. His drop is really quite high (Something like 14, iirc), 44 chest and 30 waist. That is very high compared to the average (6-7 inches) drop. People with a higher drop than that are probably really juiced up.

TurboTropic · Jul 23, 2007

I liked the article too. Chuck Lidell is probably closest to my body type - he's got muscle but he's not model skinny in the waist. I'm still betting his shirt was pinned back though - 19" neck and a shirt that fits, I don't think so.

I'd still like them to mention lower-priced brands but I guess they need to make their advertisers happy.

scruff · Jul 23, 2007

Originally Posted by texas_jack

I thought that was weird too.
You have to remember that the average "short" suit size in the States is intended for someone who's 5'8".

csgrad · Jul 23, 2007

Liddell has a 30 inch waist? Hard to imagine, not even male models have a 30 inch waist at 6 2ish. I would say a more probable 33-34.

Yeah, with his neck size, he has to go MTM.

Tarmac · Jul 23, 2007

didn't arnold reportedly have a 31 waist? or maybe that's arnold-speak for "im better than you"

lefty · Jul 23, 2007

Originally Posted by csgrad

Liddell has a 30 inch waist? Hard to imagine, not even male models have a 30 inch waist at 6 2ish. I would say a more probable 33-34. Yeah, with his neck size, he has to go MTM.
Liddell hardly has an athletic body. If anything he carries a little extra around the belly. I'd question a 14" drop. He cleans up nicely though. lefty

SuitingStyle · Jul 23, 2007

Originally Posted by LA Guy

Liddell is a beast. His drop is really quite high (Something like 14, iirc), 44 chest and 30 waist. That is very high compared to the average (6-7 inches) drop. People with a higher drop than that are probably really juiced up.

maybe becuase he is so fit and all muscle, that he appears lean in the photo and also appears lean on TV when he is in fights ........ just wished they featured more bulky guys to make it more interesting .........

Tarmac · Jul 23, 2007

he look fairly wide-hipped so yeah I doubt 30 as well. has nothing to do with body fat. I know 6ft 2 155 lbs guys who are built like a wire and still wear 32 or 33. its just how wide they are.

and now that I think about it, they forgot the most common hard-to-fit body type of all, the middle aged guy with a gut. The guy who is 25 lbs heavier than when he was in college, but still not obese.

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