new designer in menswear doing research (*US patented dress shirt collars*)

I actually don't hate this one. Maybe you should contact Karl Lagerfeld.

thanks Mr. Tiecollector for your spirited advice. I have heard my designs related to Mr. Karl Lagerfeld on many different occasions. I had an article written by DNR in the September issue of "Menswear" magazine and the editors thought Mr. Lagerfeld would be interested , appreciate, or enjoy some of my designs. However, I dont have contact information for Mr. Lagerfeld. P.S. I have read in a former blog that the readers of this forum felt Mr. Lagerfeld was a fashion genius and one of the greatest designers of this generation. The editors at DNR thought my designs could be historical, if they take off in Europe or pick up in the high-fashion communities of the U.S. My unique collar styles possibly have never seen before in fashion and the editors felt my designs could have relative importance in menswear much like coco chanel and her little black dress in womenswear. Contrary to the readers in this forum, i believe my fashion will reach the marketplace and there is a place for my style in todays menswear. thanks for the responses. eric.

Originally Posted by eric glennie

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. P.S. I have read in a former blog that the readers of this forum felt Mr. Lagerfeld was a fashion genius and one of the greatest designers of this generation. .

Did I miss that straw poll?

Originally Posted by tiecollector

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I actually don't hate this one.

Originally Posted by eric glennie

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thanks Mr. Tiecollector for your spirited advice.

Originally Posted by eric glennie

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My unique collar styles possibly have never seen before in fashion and the editors felt my designs could have relative importance in menswear much like coco chanel and her little black dress in womenswear. Contrary to the readers in this forum, i believe my fashion will reach the marketplace and there is a place for my style in todays menswear.
You're on drugs:

Originally Posted by arnach

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You're on drugs:

A lot of drugs.

Originally Posted by GQgeek

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A lot of drugs.

Btw, Lagerfeld is famous for what he does for women. I can't say I'd wear anything Lagerfeld puts on himself. ;p

This is brilliant. My eyes are tearing.

Originally Posted by eric glennie

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I had an article written by DNR in the September issue of "Menswear" magazine and the editors thought Mr. Lagerfeld would be interested , appreciate, or enjoy some of my designs. However, I dont have contact information for Mr. Lagerfeld. P.S. I have read in a former blog that the readers of this forum felt Mr. Lagerfeld was a fashion genius and one of the greatest designers of this generation. The editors at DNR thought my designs could be historical, if they take off in Europe or pick up in the high-fashion communities of the U.S.

wow, he wasn't kidding. Fall 2006, page 14:

Eric, I feel really sorry for the criticism you have had to endure on this thread. You must know that your designs are "out there." People who are members of this forum generally like classic styles. This type of collar is not very classic. It's pretty Good Fellas/1980s/NBA. We are not your projected clientele. I think you just need to accept that. This shirt design is for a niche market. And chances are the NBA crowd who looks for this design gets their stuff from other more established tailors. Breaking into that market is likely going to be very hard indeed. Personally, I find the shirts quite ugly. I know that is hard to hear, because you probably have a lot of personal time and money in the project. But, as I have said, we are not your target audience. Seeking our advice is just going to result in running into more brick walls. If you are intent on making this work, you're going to have to figure out what that target audience is and somehow get a foothold into it. The sooner you recognize that this is not and will never be a mainstream look, the better it will be for you. You need to refocus your business with that in mind. Good luck.

Originally Posted by Joel_Cairo

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wow, he wasn't kidding. Fall 2006, page 14:

A houndstooth and stripe tie?

Originally Posted by Joel_Cairo

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wow, he wasn't kidding. Fall 2006, page 14:

I'm surprised at the editorial quality of DNR, allowing such cartoonish editorializing. Tsk tsk tsk.

Originally Posted by LabelKing

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A houndstooth and stripe tie?

Hells, yeah! I like it.

Originally Posted by zjpj83

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Eric,

I feel really sorry for the criticism you have had to endure on this thread.

You must know that your designs are "out there." People who are members of this forum generally like classic styles. This type of collar is not very classic. It's pretty Good Fellas/1980s/NBA. We are not your projected clientele. I think you just need to accept that.

This shirt design is for a niche market. And chances are the NBA crowd who looks for this design gets their stuff from other more established tailors. Breaking into that market is likely going to be very hard indeed.

Personally, I find the shirts quite ugly. I know that is hard to hear, because you probably have a lot of personal time and money in the project. But, as I have said, we are not your target audience. Seeking our advice is just going to result in running into more brick walls. If you are intent on making this work, you're going to have to figure out what that target audience is and somehow get a foothold into it. The sooner you recognize that this is not and will never be a mainstream look, the better it will be for you. You need to refocus your business with that in mind.

Good luck.

I do agree. For each his own...beauty is in the eye of the beholder...etc. I don't care for them either, but I don't think a new member should have been treated this badly (and I probably should have said something sooner). I won't be buying an Eric Glennie shirt, but good luck nonetheless.

Originally Posted by LabelKing

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A houndstooth and stripe tie?
I like it too. It reminds me of this tie: I think it would work well with morning dress.

Eric,

I appreciate what you're trying to do but you should know:
when someone puts in "patented shirt collar" on a search engine, this thread will come up, with all it's comments.

There are fashion editors who read the SF.

Menswear is about evolution in very small increments.
Even small innovations are viewed as radical.

I sell really well to a luxury market that buys all the goods talked about on SF.
Yet, only two individual from the SF , that I know of, have what I make.

In the SF, what I do is about as popular as a radical collar design, but, unlike you, I'm not here to make a sale or convince anyone.

The SF is alot of fun and you can learn alot but, your not doing well.

Your on the ground getting your ass kicked.
Seriously, get up or get out before your reputation is destroyed.

Originally Posted by LabelKing

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A houndstooth and stripe tie?

yeah man, Lance has a similar Borrelli, that I have actually been considering for a while: