Surcingle belt with a suit

Originally Posted by iammatt

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no, it is a particular weave that resembles a seatbelt.

When I was younger, I had fabric belts with leather ends, but I can't remember what the fabric was. Probably cotton. It's possible they were the same thing.

I associate them exclusively with old men in poly-blend slacks. Old men are sometimes trad, but sometimes an old man is just an old man, man.

Originally Posted by Manton

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So a surcingle belt is any belt with a fabric body and leather ends?

I'm no expert, but I think it also has to have a traditional belt buckle, rather than a d-ring (the nylon d ring belts are ribbon belts, while the cotton or other cloth d-ring belts I just hear referred to as d ring belts or d ring web belts). The cloth on a surcingle belt is either cotton or wool. Wool seems to be harder to find these days.

For whatever reason, J Press (on their website) does not classify their critter belts (similar to the lobster belt above) as surcingle, although the design is identical save the "critter" in question.

I like the surcingle belt with a suit. I own three surcingles in khaki, navy, and olive. I need to pick up a red one at some point. I also have several ribbon belts. They're fun to wear in the summer. I have a d ring whale belt, too. I wouldn't wear the ribbon belts or the whale belt with a suit.

Originally Posted by iammatt

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no, it is a particular weave that resembles a seatbelt.

Yes, and this too.

Based on what I am reading, I guess I would think they are OK with a cotton or linen suit, but probably not with wool. I think I would still go with leather in most cases. Perhaps it is, however, the perfect belt to wear with a calf and twill spectator shoe.

Originally Posted by shoreman1782

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I associate them exclusively with old men in poly-blend slacks. Old men are sometimes trad, but sometimes an old man is just an old man, man.

For the record, I'm 37. Perhaps I dress like an old man, though I have no poly-blend slacks.

I don't really like this look at least not for a work environment. It seems to me that both belts and shoes should be made out of leather or at least leather like material for professional purposes.

Originally Posted by Joseph K. Bank

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I don't really like this look at least not for a work environment. It seems to me that both belts and shoes should be made out of leather or at least leather like material for professional purposes.
Welcome back my friend.

Originally Posted by shoreman1782

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I associate them exclusively with old men in poly-blend slacks. Old men are sometimes trad, but sometimes an old man is just an old man, man.

That's my dad! And he has a belt just like Matt's.

Originally Posted by iammatt

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Welcome back my friend.

Thank you for the warm welcome but this is my first day posting on the forum. I hope that I can contribute something worthwhile to the discussions on the forum particularly those about business dress and professional conduct in the workplace.

Originally Posted by Manton

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Tying the tie so that the rear blade is longer than the front is Neapolitan. Matt has become quite affected from his sojurns, hasn't he. I bet he drinks espresso and says "Cia bello" after he burps now, too.
Here you go philistine:

Originally Posted by Will

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It may not be to everyone's personal taste but the rear blade of a necktie is perfectly proper tied longer than the front so the front blade falls to the waistband. When the rear is tucked into the trouser, the necktie is held in place but has enough play to sway a bit as you walk. For precedent, see Flusser's Style and the Man. See also jacket open photos of the late Duke of Windsor who had his neckties made to measure and did it nonetheless.
Most of my ties are either going to be too long with a 4ih, or have one of those big knots which I so dislike if I wrap the tie before I tie it. This way works better.

Originally Posted by Joseph K. Bank

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Thank you for the warm welcome but this is my first day posting on the forum. I hope that I can contribute something worthwhile to the discussions on the forum particularly those about business dress and professional conduct in the workplace.

Did someone sponsor you K-man?

Originally Posted by iammatt

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no, they pronounce it ah-meehr-i-can-ata
Tu vuò fa' Napoletano?

To me, a tie tucked into the waistband just looks like you didn't pay attention last time you went to the bathroom, no matter what i napolitani say.

Originally Posted by j

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Tu vuò fa' Napoletano?
salutame a sorate

Originally Posted by grimslade

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To me, a tie tucked into the waistband just looks like you didn't pay attention last time you went to the bathroom, no matter what i napolitani say.
I don't think that you will find anybody in Naples with their ties tucked in. They are busy making sure that they can get the biggest knot possible.