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whnay. · Apr 16, 2007

However, I still have a problem with calling the person Evil.
Is it because you don't believe in the concept of good and evil or you don't think the act itself is evil?

Manton · Apr 16, 2007

Calling these people completely insane or whatever is simply an easy way for society to mitigate their own losses and go on with their lives.

How can you call someone completely evil? That would be a particularly asinine and naive statement.

"A social science that cannot speak of tyranny with the same confidence with which medicine speaks, for example, of cancer, cannot understand social phenomena as what they are. It is therefore not scientific."

lawyerdad · Apr 16, 2007

I thought you had better things to do with your time? Your friends at VPC/Brady would have mentioned "Think of the children" at least once.

No friends of mine, but of course in your paranoid world we're all part of the liberal conspiracy that controls the media.

whnay. · Apr 16, 2007

I would clasify it as a physically evil act, not a morally evil act.
I've now heard it all. If the random killing of innocents does not clasify a morally evil act, what does?

LabelKing · Apr 16, 2007

If the random killing of innocents does not clasify a morally evil act, what does?

Moral evil requires a satisfactory compulsion, such as a sadist might enjoy.

I don't know the private aspects of this shooter so I can't presume anything of that sorts.

zjpj83 · Apr 16, 2007

LabelKing · Apr 16, 2007

Indeed.

whnay. · Apr 16, 2007

Moral evil requires a satisfactory compulsion, such as a sadist might enjoy.

I don't know the private aspects of this shooter so I can't presume anything of that sorts.

Satisfactory to whom?

Manton · Apr 16, 2007

Moral evil requires a satisfactory compulsion, such as a sadist might enjoy.

Now you're just making $hit up. Quit while you're behind.

LabelKing · Apr 16, 2007

Now you're just making $hit up. Quit while you're behind.

Say that to Leibniz.

If your instant visceral reaction is to call anyone who shoots for some vague reason or other, evil then fine.

zjpj83 · Apr 16, 2007

Moral evil requires a satisfactory compulsion, such as a sadist might enjoy. I don't know the private aspects of this shooter so I can't presume anything of that sorts.
I don't know why he would need to have motivation, like a sadist, in order for it to be morally evil. Indeed, I would argue that if he did it for no reason at all - that is, if he had no "compulsion" but simply lacked all sense of morality - then that too would be evil. Since there can be no explanation or justification for killing dozens of innocent people, I don't see how you can call it anything other than morally evil.

Buickguy · Apr 16, 2007

Moral evil requires a satisfactory compulsion, such as a sadist might enjoy.

I don't know the private aspects of this shooter so I can't presume anything of that sorts.

Looking at it from the Randian Objectivist point of view, the initiation of force against another individual is the definition of immoral.

Stazy · Apr 16, 2007

Now you're just making $hit up. Quit while you're behind.

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whnay. · Apr 16, 2007

If your instant visceral reaction is to call anyone who shoots for some vague reason or other, evil then fine.
What kind of shovel are you using to dig that hole?

LabelKing · Apr 16, 2007

I don't know why he would need to have motivation, like a sadist, in order for it to be morally evil.

Indeed, I would argue that if he did it for no reason at all - that is, if he had no "compulsion" but simply lacked all sense of morality - then that too would be evil.

Since there can be no explanation or justification for killing dozens of innocent people, I don't see how you can call it anything other than morally evil.

Did he do it for the intentional purposes of some say, deviant sexual satisfaction; or perhaps, the pure joy of death?

That is what I mean by satisfaction, not some satisfation stemming from ignorance.

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