Ryanair to introduce $30 London/NYC service

von Rothbart · Apr 13, 2007

Ryanair is to introduce $30 between London & NYC, and that's round trip, cheaper than to ship a pair of EG across the pond. All thanks to "open sky" treaty just signed between US & EU which allows any EU airlines to fly anywhere in EU into US:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...&type=business

JetBlast · Apr 13, 2007

I've also seen stuff about Ryanair flying to "secondary" destinations, the nearest to me being Baltimore. I don't really think anyone knows how the OS agreement will affect the respective airlines, the only problem may be with too much traffic at the airport resulting in passenger overloads and delays.

JB

Stazy · Apr 13, 2007

Peace of mind, safety, comfort, and customer service are all factors that keep me far, far away from Ryanair.

vc2000 · Apr 13, 2007

I've heard company employees joke that they want to charge 0 for flights but make it up on everything else. Fees for luggage, booking, basically everything the North American flyer expects for free is going to be billed to the customer. Isn't checking a bag some large fee? I've never flown them but I thought it was either 70 dollars or 70 pounds for a bag. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Stazy · Apr 13, 2007

Originally Posted by vc2000

I've heard company employees joke that they want to charge 0 for flights but make it up on everything else. Fees for luggage, booking, basically everything the North American flyer expects for free is going to be billed to the customer. Isn't checking a bag some large fee? I've never flown them but I thought it was either 70 dollars or 70 pounds for a bag. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Each checked bag costs 6 Euros and you pay 9 euros for every kg over the 15 kg allowance. (BA's allowance starts at 23 kg).

seanchai · Apr 13, 2007

NOOOOOO
NOOOOOO

I'll probably fly it one day, and then repeatedly, but I WON'T LIKE IT!

Which is exactly what O'Leary wants - dissatisfied customers with no reasonable alternatives.

Trilby · Apr 13, 2007

Hard to imagine them offering many tickets at this price. Some of the key aspects of the low cost model don't work as well on long haul routes - e.g., having very short turnaround times to keep the planes productive in the air as much as possible. They also don't get the benefit of very high business/first fares providing a steady revenue flow.

That said, I wonder how low transatlantic fares could go and still run a profitable business. I'm guessing they still make a small profit when fares are really low over the winter, so the breakeven point is probably a little lower than that.

Also important to remember that taxes make up a hefty chunk of the current fares. Don't have the exact numbers in front of me, but I expect a base fare of $30 NYC/LON prices out close to $200 after all the taxes are added.

edmorel · Apr 16, 2007

At what point over the Atlantic do they push you out and you have to swim the rest of the way?

imageWIS · Apr 16, 2007

Originally Posted by edmorel

At what point over the Atlantic do they push you out and you have to swim the rest of the way?

LMAO.

Jon.

jett · Apr 16, 2007

Uh - $30 from NYC to London?!?! That's cheaper than the shuttle service to the airport. That's an unbelievable price.

JetBlast · Apr 16, 2007

At what point over the Atlantic do they push you out and you have to swim the rest of the way?

For 30 bucks they might as well fly you to the western coast of England, drop you off, and pick you up when you reach America.

JB

Lucky Strike · Apr 16, 2007

Originally Posted by seanchai

NOOOOOO NOOOOOO I'll probably fly it one day, and then repeatedly, but I WON'T LIKE IT! Which is exactly what O'Leary wants - dissatisfied customers with no reasonable alternatives.
I agree, but you have to admit that this Steerage Airlines is working well for him...

tiecollector · Apr 16, 2007

http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/ Seems they have some continental EU flights for just one pence if you book by tonite. Something fishy... suicidebomb4less.co.uk

chorse123 · Apr 16, 2007

Originally Posted by tiecollector

Seems they have some continental EU flights for just one pence if you book by tonite. Something fishy...

Not really. They do this all the time. But the free tickets are only on the least desirable flights. Typically they leave Stansted at something like 5 or 6 in the morning. The catch is that it's not possible to come from London via public transportation that early in the morning. You have to either spend the night sleeping in the airport, at a hotel nearby, or live closer than London.

Stazy · Apr 16, 2007

Originally Posted by chorse123

Not really. They do this all the time. But the free tickets are only on the least desirable flights. Typically they leave Stansted at something like 5 or 6 in the morning. The catch is that it's not possible to come from London via public transportation that early in the morning. You have to either spend the night sleeping in the airport, at a hotel nearby, or live closer than London.

If public transportation is not available, Ryanair usually provides their own buses, which is probably how they make money off these flights.

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