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Get Smart · Jun 12, 2011

Alex, that is a tremendously interesting find on the Scuttlers....i'm sure there arent many pics other than those but talk about a "lost cult"

Man-of-Mystery · Jun 12, 2011

Apparently they were a Manchester phenomenon.

Man-of-Mystery · Jun 12, 2011

(Trying to work out from the site whether this is an old announcement or a current one)

MaD Theatre Company
New Production

MaD Theatre Company presents
'Angels with Manky Faces'
a play about the 'scuttlers'
Britains first youth cult.

23 July - Liverpool
8th August - Middleton Arena
19th - 22nd August - Library Manchester
Matinee on the 22nd August.

Worth a trip?

Who knows, in 100 years there might be a play based on 'Walk Proud'

raging_rapid · Jun 12, 2011

Originally Posted by Lasttye

Abercrombie is a American cloths company, Crombie is a British company. No relation.

Lol, you're right. For some reason, I always ended up on the Crombie (british website) so never thought past it. http://www.crombie.co.uk/

Alex Roest · Jun 12, 2011

Originally Posted by Get Smart

Alex, that is a tremendously interesting find on the Scuttlers....i'm sure there arent many pics other than those but talk about a "lost cult"

Scuttlers as they might have looked

Lasttye · Jun 12, 2011

Couple more interesting books

The Likes of Us, A Biography of the White Working Class, by Michael Collins.

An Underworld at War, The Storey of Deserters,Spivs, Rackerteers, Looters , Fences, Under the Counter.
by Donald Thomas.

bunty · Jun 12, 2011

Youth Culture In Modern Britain, c.1920-c.1970

David Fowler 2008 Palgrave Macmillan

page 8

page 134

I'm not sure if the above is relevant but I thought it was a good point.

In '65, Mod was big business and so went underground again ?
(I think that's what is being hinted at.)

harrysgame · Jun 12, 2011

Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery

Got it. I think it was a bit of both ways. Robert Elms copied his big brother, I copied the jungle greens from other blokes when I got to London in '68 and I don't know where they got it from. At college there were a couple of blokes in 'greens & boots' who ran the karate club; they were total hard nuts! They were about my age, one was 18 one was 19. I knew one of the 'Smithies' from Deptford who wore greens and boots - they were younger. Blokes of all ages between about 14-20 seemed to be wearing greens or Levis with boots of one sort or another, even some of the greasers.

Am i right in saying Robert Elms was only 9 in 1969. How can anyone call themselves a Skinhead at that age.

browniecj · Jun 12, 2011

Originally Posted by Kingstonian

A decent overcoat was easier to find in the High Street in the 1960s. Department stores' quality was lot better than today. So a decent wool Crombie style overcoat was readily available.

They were completely different to the sort of eBay tat for skinheads that you see today.
Did not have a Departmental Store,in the East End,so I went to an Outfitters.

Alex Roest · Jun 12, 2011

Originally Posted by bunty

In '65, Mod was big business and so went underground again ?
(I think that's what is being hinted at.)

The idea behind the early mods was about style rather than fashion I think, hence I've always preferred the term Stylist really. I'd say it was about taking and influence and updating it ever so slightly every so often. Moving with the times, but thoughtfully so...

browniecj · Jun 12, 2011

`65 in Carnaby Street was getting Commercial.It was slowly losing its grip.Mods were starting to look elsewhere-for their Clothes.As the saying goes..."You only get bitten once".The Tourists were coming in.

loempiavreter · Jun 12, 2011

Following the lin kof that scuttler pictures M-o-M posted I came upon this article:
http://isysarchive.tv/what-we-wore-4/

Looks like a colored girl in 1970, mentioned how she fiddled in the local youth club with the skins, watching spaghetti westerns (????) at the youth club for one etc.

And then later on she mentions a later look inspired by The Great Gatsby era. I've heard that before now, think from Roy? Sorry if I'm mistaken Roy.

Lasttye · Jun 12, 2011

Originally Posted by loempiavreter

Following the lin kof that scuttler pictures M-o-M posted I came upon this article:
http://isysarchive.tv/what-we-wore-4/

Looks like a colored girl in 1970, mentioned how she fiddled in the local youth club with the skins, watching spaghetti westerns (????) at the youth club for one etc.

And then later on she mentions a later look inspired by The Great Gatsby era. I've heard that before now, think from Roy? Sorry if I'm mistaken Roy.

Nice Pics, Not sure about the first one though, Never saw a coat like that in 70, The next pic down looks ok,
My Girlfriend and future Wife had a Afghan coat, can still remember the smell, She got it out of Kensington Market, Yes The Great Gatsby look was in for a while in 74.

Nice looking Girl, Wonder where she is now

albion · Jun 12, 2011

Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery

Apparently they were a Manchester phenomenon.

The comedian Sean Hughes was a Scuttler! (Top pic)

Man-of-Mystery · Jun 13, 2011

Originally Posted by Alex Roest

Scuttlers as they might have looked

As they might have looked if the shops had been full of Burberry shmatter in the 19c!

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