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Originally Posted by mm84321
A lack of willpower is not what's causing individuals to be unable to lose weight, nor is it what's causing Americans to suffer from obesity. Granted, some people will have more difficulty with losing weight than others. But this does not imply that it is a lack of willpower that is the determining factor.
Listen sparky, you don't know **** from shinola when it comes to actual weight loss. I've lost more weight than you have on your body, or probably ever will have. On paper, you might be a quite educated when it comes to breaking it all down. In the real world, when you're standing in front of an open fridge and you can't bring yourself to close it because that last bit of leftovers is staring you in the face, and you realize that you've been standing there for 5 minutes despite your desire to close the door, then you'll know how important willpower is. IT IS PARAMOUNT. This cannot be understated. Without the willpower to keep from eating, any plan, no matter how well thought out and constructed, will go to complete ****. Period.
 

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Originally Posted by Rambo
You know very little about much of anything.
FTFY
On paper, you might be a quite educated when it comes to breaking it all down.
He doesn't even have this. It's much closer to a wikipedia eduction + a few conveniently interpreted journals. Even if he has looked further in to what he talks about, he misunderstands much of it.
 

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Originally Posted by Rambo
Listen sparky, you don't know **** from shinola when it comes to actual weight loss. I've lost more weight than you have on your body, or probably ever will have. On paper, you might be a quite educated when it comes to breaking it all down. In the real world, when you're standing in front of an open fridge and you can't bring yourself to close it because that last bit of leftovers is staring you in the face, and you realize that you've been standing there for 5 minutes despite your desire to close the door, then you'll know how important willpower is. IT IS PARAMOUNT. This cannot be understated. Without the willpower to keep from eating, any plan, no matter how well thought out and constructed, will go to complete ****. Period.

I understand what you are saying--completely. What I am saying is that a lack of willpower isn't what's causing someone to be unable to resist raiding the refrigerator at night. It is not because they don't possess self control, or that they are a glutton and a sloth, but rather because of certain biological (and to a degree, behavioral) factors that drives one to over-consume, and to crave specific foods that are uniquely fattening and inhibitory of any desired weight-loss effect.
 

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Originally Posted by HgaleK
FTFY



He doesn't even have this. It's much closer to a wikipedia eduction + a few conveniently interpreted journals. Even if he has looked further in to what he talks about, he misunderstands much of it.


You really need to remove the stick out of your ass.
 

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Whoops double post
 

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What I am saying is that a lack of willpower isn't what's causing someone to be unable to resist.

Er oh Er

Read the above statement again.

Lol

You really need to remove the stick out of your ass.

I dig being self taught. It's some good ******* bull. You should just have some idea of what you're talking about when you speak about it. Your local library has books on OChem and BioChem I bet. Otherwise there's Khan Academy (free online) which will cover OChem and intro to Bio and then you can examine things like metabolic pathways, genetics, etc.
 

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Originally Posted by HgaleK
Er oh Er

Read the above statement again.

Lol



I dig being self taught. It's some good ******* bull. You should just have some idea of what you're talking about when you speak about it. Your local library has books on OChem and BioChem I bet. Otherwise there's Khan Academy (free online) which will cover OChem and intro to Bio and then you can examine things like metabolic pathways, genetics, etc.


Feel free to counter my arguments at any time.
 

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Originally Posted by mm84321
I understand what you are saying--completely. What I am saying is that a lack of willpower isn't what's causing someone to be unable to resist raiding the refrigerator at night. It is not because they don't possess self control, or that they are a glutton and a sloth, but rather because of certain biological (and to a degree, behavioral) factors that drives one to over-consume, and to crave specific foods that are uniquely fattening and inhibitory of any desired weight-loss effect.

isnt this what people call lack of willpower?

your body might be asking you for food, but it's called will power when you say no.
 

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Originally Posted by indesertum
isnt this what people call lack of willpower?

Willpower mustn't be confused with behavioral disorders or addictions. The lack of will is not the cause of these manifestations, but merely a symptom. It is not what's driving one to abuse food, or to be unable to stick to a diet. In this case, the problem lies much deeper.

your body might be asking you for food, but it's called will power when you say no.
That's called starvation.
 

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You're splitting hairs to avoid being wrong. Stop it.
 

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Originally Posted by Eason
You're splitting hairs to avoid being wrong. Stop it.
I don't believe I was splitting any hairs. Then again, I could be wrong. I just am pretty sure that I'm not.
 

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Originally Posted by mm84321
I don't believe I was splitting any hairs. Then again, I could be wrong. I just am pretty sure that I'm not.

What I am saying is that a lack of willpower isn't what's causing someone to be unable to resist.
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What is your problem with that statement? You've quoted it twice now without once actually articulating your thoughts on it.
 

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It's not an issue of behavior, it's just an issue of behavior. I'm pretty sure you're wrong. Not sure though.
 

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