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Originally Posted by randomkoreandude

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i need some plain toes

Yeah you do, especially if they look like the ones above.

Originally Posted by pebblegrain

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Unlined? they look lined to me

"Unlined" typically refers only to the tongue and the toe-box.

where are people getting these plain toes with waterloc soles?

Originally Posted by Alcibiades

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where are people getting these plain toes with waterloc soles?

Maybe from here

Also this happened a while back: http://www.leathersoulhawaii.com/200...hell-cordovan/

Originally Posted by enigma77

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Also this happened a while back:

http://www.leathersoulhawaii.com/200...hell-cordovan/

Those are on flex soles.

I was under the impression that flex = waterloc. Is this incorrect?

Originally Posted by enigma77

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I was under the impression that flex = waterloc. Is this incorrect?

Double flex = waterloc.

Originally Posted by mtc2000

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Two PPs got stepped on by another big foot Alden shoe.

I am just not OK with this picture...

Originally Posted by rebel222

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Double flex = waterloc.
What is a Double Leather 'Waterloc' or 'Double Waterloc' sole? Here's three descriptions:


"instead of the standard double leather sole, we used an oiled version, called a 'Double Waterloc' that will resist the harmful effects of Portland’s wet climate. The heavily oiled sole is a stacked version of the soles used in the construction of Alden’s flex welt system." http://winnperry.com/updates/alden-winn-perry/

"...these boots are made Portland friendly through the use of Alden's double waterlock oiled leather sole" http://shop.winnperry.com/products/a...ck-captoe-boot

"...the signature Double Waterlock oiled leather sole pairs with the rest of the boot handsomely and increases the lifespan of your leather sole on wet surfaces." http://shop.winnperry.com/products/a...ck-captoe-boot

"...This shoe is made Portland friendly through the use of Alden's double waterlock oiled leather sole. The oiled double leather sole does not allow water to penetrate into its pores, a cause for premature aging of leather soles. The addition of the double waterlock makes this American classic that much more versatile in the Pacific NW." http://shop.winnperry.com/products/a...rlock-longwing

Originally Posted by ChrisGold

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"Unlined" typically refers only to the tongue and the toe-box.
That is correct Chris.

Originally Posted by Alcibiades

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where are people getting these plain toes with waterloc soles?

I think the ones just posted are from tassels. they are v nice.

Originally Posted by rebel222

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Double flex = waterloc.

Originally Posted by CEE88

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What is a Double Leather 'Waterloc' or 'Double Waterloc' sole? Here's three descriptions: "instead of the standard double leather sole, we used an oiled version, called a 'Double Waterloc' that will resist the harmful effects of Portland’s wet climate. The heavily oiled sole is a stacked version of the soles used in the construction of Alden’s flex welt system." http://winnperry.com/updates/alden-winn-perry/ "...these boots are made Portland friendly through the use of Alden's double waterlock oiled leather sole" http://shop.winnperry.com/products/a...ck-captoe-boot "...the signature Double Waterlock oiled leather sole pairs with the rest of the boot handsomely and increases the lifespan of your leather sole on wet surfaces." http://shop.winnperry.com/products/a...ck-captoe-boot "...This shoe is made Portland friendly through the use of Alden's double waterlock oiled leather sole. The oiled double leather sole does not allow water to penetrate into its pores, a cause for premature aging of leather soles. The addition of the double waterlock makes this American classic that much more versatile in the Pacific NW." http://shop.winnperry.com/products/a...rlock-longwing
Nice! Thanks to you both for the clarification. So is the flex welt, then, a single-oiled waterloc sole? Or is the single flex welt not oiled?

Originally Posted by Alcibiades

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where are people getting these plain toes with waterloc soles?

I emailed Tom at LS about a month or so back to see if there would be another unlined PTB offered, and he said possibly sometime soon. I would email him and ask.