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Tuxedo Shoes
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I like to think of pumps as a bit of a F-U to contemporary convention.Originally Posted by LabelKing
Indeed, they are the anti-"out of shape, golfer, bussinessman, polo shirt and dockers, rental looking tuxedo with a wing collar and fake bow-tie" look shoe.
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I like the idea of wearing velvet or grosgrain slippers to a black-tie wedding. I'm in the market and looking to buy in the next couple days. Can I get some opinions on this?
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The rule about wearing patent leather with black tie is one of the rules I break. I agree that patent leather is the traditional choice. However, for some reason, I just can't bring myself to wear patent leather shoes. To my eye, they look cheap (even the nice ones.)Originally Posted by Kai
I completely agree. And Jan, I'd be very leery of counseling the joys of the pump. They are so out there that he will think you have gone completely round the bend and thus not pay attention to anything else you say. Plaintoe, black, very, very well polished. Or patent, but that's not for me. ~Huntsman
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Goodness, how these old threads do get revived! For all the good advice contained in this thread, as it turns out, my boy is now in his fifth year in the fraternity and has never had occasion to wear black tie. The few lounge suits I have bought him suffice him just fine, and he claims he is by far the best dressed young man in the chapter. A sizable percentage of the lads go to "formal" events in shirt and tie (sans coat). James wears A-E bluchers with the suits, even though I have tried to get him into bals. Compared the footgear favored by most of his fraternity brothers, I doubt if he is committing a grievous faux pas!
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another bump.
what are thoughts on black, plain, velvet slippers? these would be for my wedding
what are thoughts on black, plain, velvet slippers? these would be for my wedding
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The rule about wearing patent leather with black tie is one of the rules I break.Originally Posted by Kai
I agree that patent leather is the traditional choice.
However, for some reason, I just can't bring myself to wear patent leather shoes. To my eye, they look cheap (even the nice ones.)
With my black tie clothing, I wear plain-toe Bal Oxfords in black shell cordovan, shined to a very high sheen.
I like this idea, actually. I know shell is often considered a rustic leather, but in black, couldn't it be shined to come close to patent, without it being so...patenty?
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Traditionally, evening pumps were calf or patent, lace-up shoes (always plain-toe oxfords; a blucher is seriously not right for a formal shoe) were patent. You can indeed wear the pump with white tie. Some authorities consider it to be required, or at least prefered, because it is a vestige of court dress, and therefore the most formal shoe in a man's arsenel.Originally Posted by Manton
In no contemporary (1930s) source that I have or have seen have I found a mention of plain leather lace-up formal shoes. I know some people hate patent; I'm not saying my word is dispositive (see below), just reporting what I have found.
How traditional is patent leather? Isn't it a fairly modern material?
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How traditional is patent leather? Isn't it a fairly modern material?Originally Posted by pvrhye
late 19th century. 1860s maybe? originally coated with linseed oil, now coated with plastic.
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late 19th century. 1860s maybe? originally coated with linseed oil, now coated with plastic.Originally Posted by Bird's One View
I didn't know about the linseed before, but I kinda figured it showed up in the very early 20th century and was kinda a novelty then. That level of bling seems to outshine the lapels, which as far as I've always assumed would be the highlight of the outfit.
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