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so I got fitted by the St. Crispin's founder today (pictorial)

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Originally Posted by Panzeraxe II
Great photographs. Can we expect a report on Scheer and/or Knize?
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If I had planned better in advance with fritzl this may have been possible. But now have to get back to work.
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Originally Posted by fritzl
for the rest of the gang. i really appreciate your confidence to hand me over a pair of EG and i feel proud to add something to them. we'll lift up the curtain within these days to come...

Am really looking forward to seeing the fruits of this effort - thanks again!

Originally Posted by Cravate_Noire
Lol, I am pretty sure that this arrangement was neither initially arranged by Attolini nor by StC...what a small world
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Ahhh... was that your hand making this possible??
 

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i just love their trees
 

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Originally Posted by luk-cha
i just love their trees

Yup - SC shoes with the trees inside weigh less than most standalone trees.
 

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Originally Posted by medtech_expat
If I had planned better in advance with fritzl this may have been possible. But now have to get back to work.
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fortunately, it won't be your last visit to vienna...
Originally Posted by medtech_expat
Am really looking forward to seeing the fruits of this effort - thanks again!
actually, it wasn't possible today to do a pair of trees from the scratch. mr. berta adjusted an existing pair. the shoes will be shined at the hotel. i hope they didn't mess them up
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also for the second pair, there might be a bit of improvent, either with mr. berta, mr. car or chay cooper from AS, though i'm pretty sure they work in an generic round toe. he also fixed a vintage pair of my trees for a restoration project of mine. he worked some magic into them. from my archive, mr. berta at work:
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Originally Posted by Eustace Tilley
Yup - SC shoes with the trees inside weigh less than most standalone trees.

non of the english makers are able to offer the treee's like this now from what i understand it is a real shame
 

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Originally Posted by luk-cha
non of the english makers are able to offer the treee's like this now from what i understand it is a real shame

mr. car said something along the line, that the output of this trees is pretty low. iirc one pair per day. it takes a lot of experience and skills to do them. st. c. is very happy that they have this craftsman on board and they keep his identity secretly, more or less.

another maker told me recently, that he isn't too happy with his french supplier of hollowed trees. fwiw, he has a lot of fitting issues.
 

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I thought St Crispins is strictly RTW and MTO, what is there to "fit"?
 

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Originally Posted by maomao1980
I thought St Crispins is strictly RTW and MTO, what is there to "fit"?

mr. car explained that their strategy is moving towards full bespoke. certainly, they want to keep the pret-shoes as basic line, but they are opting for more individulization, hence the show room with all their last models on display for customer meetings with the full monty measuring.
 

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Originally Posted by maomao1980
I thought St Crispins is strictly RTW and MTO, what is there to "fit"?

Hm, what about.... the shoe?

Modifications in the instep and forefoot area of the standard lasts are an option for their MTO programme btw.
Bespoke was offered, but at the moment it's on a halt, I think that almost all of their bespoke clients are based in Germany and they were fitted and measured by Mr.Rollig (who is now, as medtech explained, busy with his new project).

It's probably quite helpful if you have someone to guide you through a rtw selection if you never had the opportunity to try on you app. size in different lasts and in several widths, in +-0.5 sizings and still have the possiblity to adjust the last if necessary.



non of the english makers are able to offer the treee's like this now from what i understand it is a real shame
I think a realistic price, if offered by an english maker, given that they are made they same way StC makes them and made in England, would be ca.200-250GBP retail...
I dont know exactly why, but they use a large, massive block of high quality wood to carve, mill, shape the trees and it binds one worker for almost a whole day for a single pair.
 

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Originally Posted by Cravate_Noire
Modifications in the instep and forefoot area of the standard lasts are an option for their MTO programme btw.

The problem with these modifications (which also other MTO manufacturers offer), they will only add materials (make parts of the last bigger), but will not reduce the last (to accommodate a narrow heel, for example). In the first case, once the job is done, they'll rip off the leather patches and are back to the standard last. Were they to reduce, they would end up with a freakish last, that might not fit anyone else.


Originally Posted by Cravate_Noire
Bespoke was offered, but at the moment it's on a halt,

Here is a pair of bespoke SC, made for Jun Kuwana:

http://cobblersweb.style.coocan.jp/s...nt120-top.html
 

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Originally Posted by bengal-stripe
The problem with these modifications (which also other MTO manufacturers offer), they will only add materials (make parts of the last bigger), but will not reduce the last (to accommodate a narrow heel, for example). In the first case, once the job is done, they'll rip off the leather patches and are back to the standard last. Were they to reduce, they would end up with a freakish last, that might not fit anyone else. Here is a pair of bespoke SC, made for Jun Kuwana: http://cobblersweb.style.coocan.jp/s...nt120-top.html
Here is another pair of SC bespoke, black-sepia co-respondents. If you want I can also look for a picture of the fitting belt. however, to my knowlledge, they dont take new bespoke customers at the moment.


 

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bengal-stripe;4083432 said:
The problem with these modifications (which also other MTO manufacturers offer), they will only add materials (make parts of the last bigger), but will not reduce the last (to accommodate a narrow heel, for example). In the first case, once the job is done, they'll rip off the leather patches and are back to the standard last. Were they to reduce, they would end up with a freakish last, that might not fit anyone else.



My experience with SC is that I was allowed to keep the existing last they made for my MTO shoes that my future orders should be exactly the same.
 

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Originally Posted by Cravate_Noire
......to my knowlledge, they dont take new bespoke customers at the moment.

That's quite possible, I wouldn't know. I only posted the JK link to show how their bespoke shoes look like (or maybe looked like).

What size and width is that shoe you posted? Looks enormous! Does the tiny hand belong to the shoe's owner?
 

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Originally Posted by tchoy
My experience with SC is that I was allowed to keep the existing last they made for my MTO shoes that my future orders should be exactly the same.

That is certainly a great improvement from the standard practice. Do they also (if needed) reduce sections of the last?
 

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