Official new iPhone 4

dr.no · Jan 11, 2011

Verizon announced today iPhone 4 launching 2/10, but on 3G

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/splash/iphone.jsp

Will the iPhone work on Verizon Wireless' 4G LTE network?
iPhone 4 works on Verizon Wireless' 3G network.

Jr Mouse · Jan 11, 2011

Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim

4G isn't what you think it is then, because HSPA+ is just as "4G" as LTE

4G = 4th generation wireless network technology. Much like when we went from 2G to 3G, it should be a label used for major leap to a new wireless technology.

HSPA+ = upgraded 3G network technology that is on the last of its legs.

LTE = Next generation network technology that already has a planned major upgrade in the works.

What they are doing with HSPA+ reminds me a lot of the 2.5G stop gap that was available before 3G was fully deployed.

Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim

They didn't "decide to" HSPA+ became 4G last month.
They changed their marketing to reflect this.

Just because they gave in and decided to label HSPA+ 4G to please two of the carriers marketing departments does not make it right or any less misleading at the end of the day.

Jr Mouse · Jan 11, 2011

Originally Posted by dr.no

Verizon announced today iPhone 4 launching 2/10, but on 3G

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/splash/iphone.jsp

Will the iPhone work on Verizon Wireless' 4G LTE network?
iPhone 4 works on Verizon Wireless' 3G network.

Yes, it's just a CDMA iPhone 4. No other changes. We won't see an LTE iPhone till iPhone 5 or 6. If I was a better man, based on how conservative Apple is in these areas and the need for major feature creeps every two years, it won't happen till iPhone 6.

Tokyo Slim · Jan 11, 2011

Originally Posted by JMRouse

4G = 4th generation wireless network technology. Much like when we went from 2G to 3G, it should be a label used for major leap to a new wireless technology.
But it's not. Not in the way you are using it. You are mistaken. THIS is misleading. 4G is a rating given to a system that meets a set of performance benchmarks by a committee. They don't give a **** if you use the equivalent of a string and two cans to meet these benchmarks, as long as you meet them. It really has nothing to do with new technology.

dcg · Jan 11, 2011

Interesting that LTE actually stands for something. Since VZW never explains it in their commercials, I always figured it was just three random bullshit letters they tacked on to the end of "4G" to make themselves seem special (kind of like "Trail Rated" or "THX certified&quot

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bdeuce22 · Jan 11, 2011

Originally Posted by JMRouse

Yes, it's just a CDMA iPhone 4. No other changes. We won't see an LTE iPhone till iPhone 5 or 6. If I was a better man, based on how conservative Apple is in these areas and the need for major feature creeps every two years, it won't happen till iPhone 6.

agree with the 5 or 6 before LTE.

however, the free hotspot for other devices is very nice. don't need a MiFi or 3G ipad anymore.

Krish the Fish · Jan 11, 2011

yeah. I'm ordering one for myself, and seeing if I can get an early upgrade for the old man, who's been with VZW for a long, long time (aka since the moto startac). His upgrade is eligible on march 21st, so maybe I can get them to budge a month and a half.

Stazy · Jan 11, 2011

So when is the iPhone 5 coming out? My 3GS is on its last leg...

Jr Mouse · Jan 11, 2011

Originally Posted by bdeuce22

agree with the 5 or 6 before LTE. however, the free hotspot for other devices is very nice. don't need a MiFi or 3G ipad anymore.
Is it FREE? I know they are allowing it to be a mobile hotspot for 5 devices, but I was under the impression they would be adding an extra charge for this? I wouldn't get a CDMA iPhone anyways. I use simultaneousness voice and data on my ATT iPhone all the time and not having it is a deal breaker for me. Tokyo Slim, I will get to your points a little later when I have time. EDIT: http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/11/v...obile-hotspot/ Yep, not free. Check out the screen grab.

Jr Mouse · Jan 11, 2011

Originally Posted by Stazy

So when is the iPhone 5 coming out? My 3GS is on its last leg...

This summer. Apple releases a new "next generation" iPhone every year around the same time. I honestly don't expect the iPhone 5 to be much more then a tweaked and slightly upgraded iPhone 4, much like the 3GS was to the 3G. We won't see the next big leap till iPhone 6.

Tokyo Slim · Jan 11, 2011

Originally Posted by JMRouse

Tokyo Slim, I will get to your points a little later when I have time.

You don't have to. There really isn't anything more you can say.

Stazy · Jan 11, 2011

Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim

You don't have to. There really isn't anything more you can say.

What do you think about the Windows 7 Phone?

Tokyo Slim · Jan 11, 2011

Originally Posted by Stazy

What do you think about the Windows 7 Phone?
I haven't really played with one for more than about 2 seconds at the MS store. Nobody I know has one. I'm pretty happy with my Nexus One still.

Jr Mouse · Jan 11, 2011

Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim

You don't have to. There really isn't anything more you can say.

Jackass.

Tokyo Slim · Jan 11, 2011

Originally Posted by JMRouse

Jackass.

Jackass is a rating system given to me by you for fulfilling your performance requirements of being correct AND smug.

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